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generic-user-1 on 25 August 2015
DerNebel said:
generic-user-1 said:
DerNebel said:

This has got to be one of the worst posts I've seen on here in a while. I mean do you actually believe this garbage you shit on the screen here?


yes i was wrong, fifa is niche, but well the football niche is fuckn huge in europe.

beeing niche is nothing bad, for console maker its a good move to make a good game for a niche, players who prefer niche games are way more likely to buy a console just for one game.

(sry im to stupid to quote this again, but its from you too.)"And "ND games only sell well in slow years", like 2013 that had GTA V or 2011 that had Skyrim and Battlefield 3"

do you realy think a zombieshooter or a actionadventure with plot in the quality of the last indianer jones movie competes with a hookerbeating simulator, a rpg or a bad mpshooter with a story with the quality of american battleship?

According to that brilliant definition literally every game is niche.

Oh and aren't you a special little snowflake, "look at me guys, I think ND makes bad games and everyone else that likes them (which includes critics and millions of consumers) is just stupid and if it wasn't for these arbritrary reasons I've set then their games wouldn't sell at all".

And if you think that those games didn't compete with NDs games then maybe you can, in your utter brilliance, tell us what it would be that comes out this year that Uncharted 4 wouldn't be able to compete with, apparently it's not something like Fallout 4 (an RPG), Halo 5 or Battlefront (mp shooter). What is it then? Rise of the Tomb Raider? That's just completely laughable when comparing the interest each of these games have garnered up to this point.

Best thing is that you say a ND game wouldn't have been able to compete last year, when surprise, surprise TLOU sold 3.7 million copies last year.

Let me be absolutely frank here, as I don't think your comment deserves any kind of sugarcoating, your comment was absolute bollocks.


TRrebootreboot 2 will outsell uncharted 4.  i take a bet.

and im not a special snowflake, but you dont have to be special to know that game critics are a bunch of  shitlords.

and i dont talk about that stupid to much water BS.  the most of the gaming critics dont follow the journalistic code,  they take bribes, wage wars against people they dont like, etc.  and than there is the part of gaming critics that isnt just corrupt, but totaly retarded(the people gamergate was about).

 

i dont trust the most of gaming critics, and you shouldnt too. they are not like movie or literature critics.

 

 

 



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TheBlackNaruto on 25 August 2015

....this thread though....WOW



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Nymeria on 25 August 2015

If everything is niche why even call something niche? It is meaningless in this context.



TheBlackNaruto on 25 August 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DerNebel said:

According to that brilliant definition literally every game is niche.

Oh and aren't you a special little snowflake, "look at me guys, I think ND makes bad games and everyone else that likes them (which includes critics and millions of consumers) is just stupid and if it wasn't for these arbritrary reasons I've set then their games wouldn't sell at all".

And if you think that those games didn't compete with NDs games then maybe you can, in your utter brilliance, tell us what it would be that comes out this year that Uncharted 4 wouldn't be able to compete with, apparently it's not something like Fallout 4 (an RPG), Halo 5 or Battlefront (mp shooter). What is it then? Rise of the Tomb Raider? That's just completely laughable when comparing the interest each of these games have garnered up to this point.

Best thing is that you say a ND game wouldn't have been able to compete last year, when surprise, surprise TLOU sold 3.7 million copies last year.

Let me be absolutely frank here, as I don't think your comment deserves any kind of sugarcoating, your comment was absolute bollocks.


TRrebootreboot 2 will outsell uncharted 4.  i take a bet.

and im not a special snowflake, but you dont have to be special to know that game critics are a bunch of  shitlords.

and i dont talk about that stupid to much water BS.  the most of the gaming critics dont follow the journalistic code,  they take bribes, wage wars against people they dont like, etc.  and than there is the part of gaming critics that isnt just corrupt, but totaly retarded(the people gamergate was about).

 

i dont trust the most of gaming critics, and you shouldnt too. they are not like movie or literature critics.

 

 

 


What about your fellow gamers? I mean Literally millions of them seem to disagree with you if we go by sales. ND games seem to be respected from consumers and critics so even if you don't trust the critics your fellow gamers seem to love their games. And not to go to deep in teh conversation your logic does seem flawed stating that ND games only sell well when it is slow or that they could not compete against MGS then saying TR could. I don't know man there are just way to many holes that shoot down your theories.



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Azuren on 25 August 2015

I think what he means by niche is that there is realistically only one game in that market: Fifa.



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Lauster on 25 August 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DerNebel said:
generic-user-1 said:
DerNebel said:

This has got to be one of the worst posts I've seen on here in a while. I mean do you actually believe this garbage you shit on the screen here?


yes i was wrong, fifa is niche, but well the football niche is fuckn huge in europe.

beeing niche is nothing bad, for console maker its a good move to make a good game for a niche, players who prefer niche games are way more likely to buy a console just for one game.

(sry im to stupid to quote this again, but its from you too.)"And "ND games only sell well in slow years", like 2013 that had GTA V or 2011 that had Skyrim and Battlefield 3"

do you realy think a zombieshooter or a actionadventure with plot in the quality of the last indianer jones movie competes with a hookerbeating simulator, a rpg or a bad mpshooter with a story with the quality of american battleship?

According to that brilliant definition literally every game is niche.

Oh and aren't you a special little snowflake, "look at me guys, I think ND makes bad games and everyone else that likes them (which includes critics and millions of consumers) is just stupid and if it wasn't for these arbritrary reasons I've set then their games wouldn't sell at all".

And if you think that those games didn't compete with NDs games then maybe you can, in your utter brilliance, tell us what it would be that comes out this year that Uncharted 4 wouldn't be able to compete with, apparently it's not something like Fallout 4 (an RPG), Halo 5 or Battlefront (mp shooter). What is it then? Rise of the Tomb Raider? That's just completely laughable when comparing the interest each of these games have garnered up to this point.

Best thing is that you say a ND game wouldn't have been able to compete last year, when surprise, surprise TLOU sold 3.7 million copies last year.

Let me be absolutely frank here, as I don't think your comment deserves any kind of sugarcoating, your comment was absolute bollocks.


TRrebootreboot 2 will outsell uncharted 4.  i take a bet.

and im not a special snowflake, but you dont have to be special to know that game critics are a bunch of  shitlords.

and i dont talk about that stupid to much water BS.  the most of the gaming critics dont follow the journalistic code,  they take bribes, wage wars against people they dont like, etc.  and than there is the part of gaming critics that isnt just corrupt, but totaly retarded(the people gamergate was about).

 

i dont trust the most of gaming critics, and you shouldnt too. they are not like movie or literature critics.

 

 

 

I take this bet then, it will be an easy win :P



Shiken on 25 August 2015

8 months of nothing has my X1 still in the box after I moved. PS4 gave me The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, and has been my default for multi plat games.

I will break the X1 out for Halo and Gears, but to be honest I am more looking forward to Dragon Quest Heros and Persona 5. To me Sony not only has the better line up, but also a more solid approach.



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KiigelHeart on 25 August 2015

Uncharted is as mainstream as it gets. Opposite of niche imo and will outsell RotTR. I don't take bets tho, i'm a chicken.



sergiodaly on 25 August 2015
vivster said:
sergiodaly said:
vivster said:

Both divisions are idiots. Why even pay for self developed games at all when 3rd parties are bringing great games to you platform for free!! Think, people!

in those cases 99% of the profit goes to 3rd party too... think men!

And that 1% of 3rd party software is the vast majority of console maker's profits.

its a huge slice of the cake but one doesn't keep the other out... in 1st party the profit can be quite substancial so why not bet on that too?

why enable others to do big bucks on your console and not take a piece of that action for yourself? that would be idiotic...

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DerNebel on 25 August 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DerNebel said:

According to that brilliant definition literally every game is niche.

Oh and aren't you a special little snowflake, "look at me guys, I think ND makes bad games and everyone else that likes them (which includes critics and millions of consumers) is just stupid and if it wasn't for these arbritrary reasons I've set then their games wouldn't sell at all".

And if you think that those games didn't compete with NDs games then maybe you can, in your utter brilliance, tell us what it would be that comes out this year that Uncharted 4 wouldn't be able to compete with, apparently it's not something like Fallout 4 (an RPG), Halo 5 or Battlefront (mp shooter). What is it then? Rise of the Tomb Raider? That's just completely laughable when comparing the interest each of these games have garnered up to this point.

Best thing is that you say a ND game wouldn't have been able to compete last year, when surprise, surprise TLOU sold 3.7 million copies last year.

Let me be absolutely frank here, as I don't think your comment deserves any kind of sugarcoating, your comment was absolute bollocks.


TRrebootreboot 2 will outsell uncharted 4.  i take a bet.

and im not a special snowflake, but you dont have to be special to know that game critics are a bunch of  shitlords.

and i dont talk about that stupid to much water BS.  the most of the gaming critics dont follow the journalistic code,  they take bribes, wage wars against people they dont like, etc.  and than there is the part of gaming critics that isnt just corrupt, but totaly retarded(the people gamergate was about).

 

i dont trust the most of gaming critics, and you shouldnt too. they are not like movie or literature critics.

Great job dodging most of my post.

1. Even if that was going to be the case, you do realize the exclusivity status here right? If both games came this year then they still wouldn't be on the same platform. Also I find the idea that Tomb Raider is still somehow this gaming juggernaut while UC is apparently not able to compete ridiculous considering that for years until the 2013 Reboot TR was on the brink of complete irrelevancy while Uncharted was flourishing. The only way RoTR has a chance of outselling UC4 is if it gets excessively bundled and put on constant Steam sales, in normal retail sales it doesn't stand a chance against UC4.

2. If that, incredibly childish, notion about game reviewers is to be taken seriously, what about the consumers? What about the millions of people that buy these games? Go on any site where consumers can rate games and you will find ND games always having very positive ratings, are those also from "shitlords" and "retards"? And what about the excitement for UC4? All UC4 trailers and gameplay videos have up to this point gathered over 23 million views on the PS channel alone (btw compare that to RoTR trailers/gameplay and weep, it's not even a fair fight), are they coming from all these "retarded and paid off journalists" as well?