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Soundwave said:
Wagram said:
Lack of an optical drive makes it an automatic non-buy and it will be the first Nintendo machine ever to be one.

You do realize Nintendo made consoles long before the GameCube right?


I don't know, my NES library must be fake.

I will not support a digital only machine - ever.



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Soundwave said:
Wyrdness said:


Not really because the lack of media features that other consoles have and the removal of optical tech should help save on the costs, going by Miyamoto's words they seem to want an affordable price no matter what so chances are they sell at a loss if need be. The Patent also said example unit indicating the may be differing models.

Removing the disc drive would save them maybe $10 ... disc drives are dirt cheap these days. 

BR drives that the Wii U uses are around 30 quid cheapest.



Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:


There is no proof that people simply got bored of the Wii Remote, yes things like Kinect & Smart Devices started to eat into that market but that doesn't mean the ship had sailed, if that were the case than Wii wouldn't have sold another 20 million post-2010 when it basically got no support outside of Zelda & the Just Dance/Skylanders combo every holiday.

Holiday 2008 did not have weak releases, those games u mentioned, Animal Crossing: City Folk & Wii Music along with Guitar Hero: World Tour were all big releases that averaged about 4 million sales each on top of evergreen titles like Wii Sports/Play/Fit, Mario Kart still moving units.

This is why I hate the "casual" term, u are referring to all casuals as a single group of people who all share the same opinions/tastes, that's not how it works. Based on how ur talking, this is the video game market.

Hardcore-$60 AAA console games

Casual-free/$1 mobile games

Im sorry but ur pretty ignorant if u dont think there is any type of middle ground between those 2 markets.


I don't think there is much of a middle ground to be honest. Not as much as people think. 

If I like playing simple games without lots of buttons, simple arcadey games, what appeal would any console offer me?

More intuitive control? No. Multitouch touchscreen is so easy even 3-4 year olds use it with no fuss, where motion gaming can actually be more frustrating (commands don't register, you have to point the pointer, the camera loses track of what you're doing, Wiimote constantly needs to be resynced, etc. etc. etc.). 

More games? No. iOS/Android marketplaces are vibrant with tons of new games constantly being added. 

Price? Not even close. Nintendo/Wii and Microsoft/Kinect are not even remotely competetive here. Cannot compete with free/$1 games. 

Convienance? Nope. My phone is in my pocket all day and on my nightstand at night, I can play when ever I want, where ever I want. Wii or Kinect? You need to be in your living room, and you probably need to have family over to have any fun with the thing. No thanks. 

Now gamers here will scream "bu ... but quality games!", but if I'm a casual, I'm not playing even a 3D Mario game. Forget Zelda or Gears or Last of Us or Halo or GTA. None of that matters to me. 

All the break out casual hit games today are on iOS/Android too ... Candy Crush and all that. The last big break out casual game on home consoles was what? Just Dance? That's what? 5 years old now? It's not really that hard to see why the audience for simpler/more casual experiences is completely domianted by Apple and Google ... Nintendo and MS just do not stack up at all. 

A 10-year-old wand controller isn't going to turn this tide. 


Yep ur absolutely right, there is no market for anything other than free mobile games or $60 AAA games. No market whatsoever for anything that falls between those 2. That's why $30-40 games that aren't as large in scope or complex as AAA titles and not as cheap or simple as mobile games have completely fallen off the face of the earth and are unable to find success.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

*Spemanig reads news on new console patent*
*reads that it won't have a disk drive and will have a controller with a screen*

My Face: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:

Removing the disc drive would save them maybe $10 ... disc drives are dirt cheap these days. 

BR drives that the Wii U uses are around 30 quid cheapest.


At retail maybe, Nintendo definitely isn't paying that for a disc drive. 



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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:


I don't think there is much of a middle ground to be honest. Not as much as people think. 

If I like playing simple games without lots of buttons, simple arcadey games, what appeal would any console offer me?

More intuitive control? No. Multitouch touchscreen is so easy even 3-4 year olds use it with no fuss, where motion gaming can actually be more frustrating (commands don't register, you have to point the pointer, the camera loses track of what you're doing, Wiimote constantly needs to be resynced, etc. etc. etc.). 

More games? No. iOS/Android marketplaces are vibrant with tons of new games constantly being added. 

Price? Not even close. Nintendo/Wii and Microsoft/Kinect are not even remotely competetive here. Cannot compete with free/$1 games. 

Convienance? Nope. My phone is in my pocket all day and on my nightstand at night, I can play when ever I want, where ever I want. Wii or Kinect? You need to be in your living room, and you probably need to have family over to have any fun with the thing. No thanks. 

Now gamers here will scream "bu ... but quality games!", but if I'm a casual, I'm not playing even a 3D Mario game. Forget Zelda or Gears or Last of Us or Halo or GTA. None of that matters to me. 

All the break out casual hit games today are on iOS/Android too ... Candy Crush and all that. The last big break out casual game on home consoles was what? Just Dance? That's what? 5 years old now? It's not really that hard to see why the audience for simpler/more casual experiences is completely domianted by Apple and Google ... Nintendo and MS just do not stack up at all. 

A 10-year-old wand controller isn't going to turn this tide. 


Yep ur absolutely right, there is no market for anything other than free mobile games or $60 AAA games. No market whatsoever for anything that falls between those 2. That's why $30-40 games that aren't as large in scope or complex as AAA titles and not as cheap or simple as mobile games have completely fallen off the face of the earth and are unable to find success.


Why does there have to be a middle ground? 

As far as I can tell right now core/casual core players are very happy with their home consoles and casuals/novice level gamers are very, very happy with the simpler but fun experiences that can be had on a smartphone or tablet for little/no money. 

Today you can play games regardless of your skill level in a variety of different forms very easily. 

The problem for Nintendo is they're not really offering the best on either spectrum. Sony does the core aspect better and Apple/Google do the casual thing much better than even the Wii did. More people play games today probably than ever really. I see old men in the business suits and women playing games on their tablet on flights or at the airport, 10-12 years ago the only time you saw people playing games in public were kids playing on their Game Boy. 

$60 isn't even that bad to be honest. I grew up with $60-$80 NES, SNES, and N64 games.



Wyrdness said:

Basic break down of the device check the GAF link for more.

- HDD and two other types of memory present.

- Games can be installed on the HDD.

- It can not only connect with another platform that uses discs (possibly the Wii U) but apparently run games from that platform even the disc games on itself.

- Screen Controller

- From the full patent shown on GAF the memory card slot is indicated to be for the format which is non disc, the patent describes the SD card as holding game data that is read off the format or installed from it.

- Patent indicates the device can record what multiple devices of different configuration are doing, seems to be a hardware feature and not software.

- External HDDs supported.

- Full patent on GAF shows a Steam like digital feature is present.

- An SD card like format indicates possible compatibility with portable games.

- Very likely to be account based.

Remember Iwata saying that NX isn't simple replacement for 3DS and Wii U.

Also this image

I think this Hardware Patent thing deserves new thread.



Also, another controller with a screen? Bleeh... I like the GamePad, but still! :/



                
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If you could play PC games on the NX console via streaming ... that would be very interesting.



Miyamotoo said:

Remember Iwata saying that NX isn't simple replacement for 3DS and Wii U.

Also this image

I think this Hardware Patent thing deserves new thread.


Yeah it may as well be a new thread as it's something that's at least more concrete and not speculation, I'll leave the thread to you though.