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midrange on 10 August 2015
Wyrdness said:
midrange said:


I have played the game, I do not own the game. By free for all, I meant that they should solely focus on free for all and beef up the local multiplayer if they decided voice chat (which is important in team gameplay) wasn't worthwhile. Clearly you think voice chat wouldn't help, I think otherwise, so why not add it as an OPTION for people like me? 

Splatoon is not like other shooters, but it is still a shooter. If the new smash bros only had 4 fighters to choose from, people would be in an outrage seeing as how most fighters have more. People were annoyed when sunspace was removed, but they more than made up for it through other features, what does splatoon have to make up for the poor local coop?

I have actually played through wonderful 101 fully, but I didn't need to to see reviewers were right about the learning curve. "Reviewers also sucked hard at games like wonderful 101." Of course they did, the tutorial was pathetic. Many times I had to look up ways to beat things and realized I had an ability that could help all along. That's not fun, that's frustrating. If you're into those kinds of games, knock yourself out, but gotg should be appealing to all, not the elite few


Have you played the game thoroughly though because a few hours is nothing compared to high rank battles, free for all already exists in the games approach this is why in Splatoon matches can be won in seconds, all you'd hear in chat would be things your map is already telling you or insults, as far as matches go I don't think it won't change much I already know it won't as it's down to the individual's assessment of the situation.

Again Splatoon is not like other shooters so trying to use other shooters as a comparison is just silly and broken no other way to put it it's just a misguided argument like when people were arguing Halo has multiplayer so Metroid Prime should over a decade ago, two completely different creatures and the same applies here. You're using Smash as an argument but that's broken as well because the game already has previous entries if you look at the first Smash game compared to other fighters it was pretty similar to Splatoon in it's differences to other games, it had less characters and modes compared to most fighting games at the time.

Right now your argument hinges on local co-op a feature 90% of shooters released now days don't even have at all, Halo 5 won't even have split screen so this says it all about the arguments you're trying to push in claiming standards of the genre yet the genre itself isn't entertaining the feature you're focused on. Splatoon has a ton of other content to make up for its co-op feature and even gives free regular DLC something not many shooters are doing.

Wonderful 101's tutorial is no different to that of Bayonetta and DMC, fact it is many reviewers just sucked at the game and you yourself it seemed no offence, it's funny because when Nintendo added Fi into Skyward Sword the same people moaned about hand holding but when W101 gives you the basics and leaves you to figure things out on your own accord complaints come the other way from the same people. Fact is the game tells you the basics and all abilities and items have descriptions on what they do, if you don't have a brain that can put 2 and 2 together in that regard it's not the games fault sorry.


Again, voice chat OPTION. You think it won't help, don't use it. If others think it will help, give them the option to do so, or don't complain when others are annoyed by this missing feature.

I was referring to the original smash bros. Also, would splatoon get a free pass if the balancing is broken because it's not a traditional shooter? Would splatoon get a free pass if it only had 2 maps to choose from? Would it get a free pass if the online mode was glitchy and laggy? Would it get a free pass for low local multiplayer content? The answer is no. Many other shooters get flak for these things. People aren't exactly praising microsoft for no coop in halo 5. Every game gets shit on if it has locked on disk dlc. You can't just say "but splatoon is unique" as a cop out and reviewers know this.

Yes , I am talking about a feature (local coop) that games should have. For all the shit cod gets, I actually admire how they added local multiplayer, and I'm also looking forward to the zombies mode (something that was unnecessary but a great and substantial addition).

If a game doesn't get local coop, then I expect it to be replaced with something substantial, like a character rpg tree in destiny, or a huge world to explore in metroid prime. What does splatoon have to make not only equal to the previously mentioned games, but better (to be gotg)?

Wonderful 101 had an abysmal tutorial, and looking back taking the time to figure stuff out is what made the game unenjoyable. Platinum games shouldn't expect every user to research moves in order to enjoy the game. Some people are into that, but not everyone is. some people just don't give a rats ass and want to enjoy the game from the get go. If wonderful 101 decides to ignore that fact, then it deserves to have the low sales and reviews that it did get. You can't just say that everyone who didn't like the game sucked.



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Wyrdness on 10 August 2015
midrange said:


Again, voice chat OPTION. You think it won't help, don't use it. If others think it will help, give them the option to do so, or don't complain when others are annoyed by this missing feature.

I was referring to the original smash bros. Also, would splatoon get a free pass if the balancing is broken because it's not a traditional shooter? Would splatoon get a free pass if it only had 2 maps to choose from? Would it get a free pass if the online mode was glitchy and laggy? Would it get a free pass for low local multiplayer content? The answer is no. Many other shooters get flak for these things. People aren't exactly praising microsoft for no coop in halo 5. Every game gets shit on if it has locked on disk dlc. You can't just say "but splatoon is unique" as a cop out and reviewers know this.

Yes , I am talking about a feature (local coop) that games should have. For all the shit cod gets, I actually admire how they added local multiplayer, and I'm also looking forward to the zombies mode (something that was unnecessary but a great and substantial addition).

If a game doesn't get local coop, then I expect it to be replaced with something substantial, like a character rpg tree in destiny, or a huge world to explore in metroid prime. What does splatoon have to make not only equal to the previously mentioned games, but better (to be gotg)?

Wonderful 101 had an abysmal tutorial, and looking back taking the time to figure stuff out is what made the game unenjoyable. Platinum games shouldn't expect every user to research moves in order to enjoy the game. Some people are into that, but not everyone is. some people just don't give a rats ass and want to enjoy the game from the get go. If wonderful 101 decides to ignore that fact, then it deserves to have the low sales and reviews that it did get. You can't just say that everyone who didn't like the game sucked.


You are using voice chat as argument that it's crucial to being competitive as the game currently proves it's not needed to be competitive as the game functions in a different manner you're only now shifting your argument to it being an option because you're at a dead end right now on a game you don't own and haven't played fully. Right now people are playing the game competitively just fine, most of the complaints are from, surprise people who don't own the game. Only reason for VC is really to chat to friends in a custom game.

Balance, online and glitches are not genre defining problems they're general problems across all games, you're arguing genre specific standards against a game that's far different to other games in the genre this is were your comparisons are falling flat. A game that is unique doesn't have to adhere to standards of games it's not trying to be like simple as that, Metroid Prime didn't need to adhere to other shooters, Smash didn't need to adhere to other fighters, MK didn't need to adhere to other racers because their approaches were going for something completely different. Splatoon has sold mainly to people who don't like shooters much like Smash and MK sell to people who aren't normally fond of fighters and racers, this flat out says that their way of doing things is effective for what they're aiming for and the approach is doing something that other games in the genre aren't so why should they adhere to those games.

Sorry but it sounds like you sucked at W101, it may be a bitter pill to swallow but it sounds like you weren't very good at it, W101's tutorial is no diffferent from Bayonetta or any other action title, what is different is that in a game like Bayonetta 2 you can get through by simply mashing the attack button and pressing dodge and end up thinking you're actually good. W101 is technical down to your inputs and what's going on onscreen, you can't mash attack and dodge in this game and that's why you feel the tutorial is worse it's a case of the game just being more punishing difficulty wise and taking no prisoners because it's a game only for a player who consistently practices to improve their skill and grasp the mechanics not those who aren't up to scratch and give up. You fall in the latter sadly.



Samus Aran on 10 August 2015
midrange said:
Wyrdness said:


Have you played the game thoroughly though because a few hours is nothing compared to high rank battles, free for all already exists in the games approach this is why in Splatoon matches can be won in seconds, all you'd hear in chat would be things your map is already telling you or insults, as far as matches go I don't think it won't change much I already know it won't as it's down to the individual's assessment of the situation.

Again Splatoon is not like other shooters so trying to use other shooters as a comparison is just silly and broken no other way to put it it's just a misguided argument like when people were arguing Halo has multiplayer so Metroid Prime should over a decade ago, two completely different creatures and the same applies here. You're using Smash as an argument but that's broken as well because the game already has previous entries if you look at the first Smash game compared to other fighters it was pretty similar to Splatoon in it's differences to other games, it had less characters and modes compared to most fighting games at the time.

Right now your argument hinges on local co-op a feature 90% of shooters released now days don't even have at all, Halo 5 won't even have split screen so this says it all about the arguments you're trying to push in claiming standards of the genre yet the genre itself isn't entertaining the feature you're focused on. Splatoon has a ton of other content to make up for its co-op feature and even gives free regular DLC something not many shooters are doing.

Wonderful 101's tutorial is no different to that of Bayonetta and DMC, fact it is many reviewers just sucked at the game and you yourself it seemed no offence, it's funny because when Nintendo added Fi into Skyward Sword the same people moaned about hand holding but when W101 gives you the basics and leaves you to figure things out on your own accord complaints come the other way from the same people. Fact is the game tells you the basics and all abilities and items have descriptions on what they do, if you don't have a brain that can put 2 and 2 together in that regard it's not the games fault sorry.


Again, voice chat OPTION. You think it won't help, don't use it. If others think it will help, give them the option to do so, or don't complain when others are annoyed by this missing feature.

I was referring to the original smash bros. Also, would splatoon get a free pass if the balancing is broken because it's not a traditional shooter? Would splatoon get a free pass if it only had 2 maps to choose from? Would it get a free pass if the online mode was glitchy and laggy? Would it get a free pass for low local multiplayer content? The answer is no. Many other shooters get flak for these things. People aren't exactly praising microsoft for no coop in halo 5. Every game gets shit on if it has locked on disk dlc. You can't just say "but splatoon is unique" as a cop out and reviewers know this.

Yes , I am talking about a feature (local coop) that games should have. For all the shit cod gets, I actually admire how they added local multiplayer, and I'm also looking forward to the zombies mode (something that was unnecessary but a great and substantial addition).

If a game doesn't get local coop, then I expect it to be replaced with something substantial, like a character rpg tree in destiny, or a huge world to explore in metroid prime. What does splatoon have to make not only equal to the previously mentioned games, but better (to be gotg)?

Wonderful 101 had an abysmal tutorial, and looking back taking the time to figure stuff out is what made the game unenjoyable. Platinum games shouldn't expect every user to research moves in order to enjoy the game. Some people are into that, but not everyone is. some people just don't give a rats ass and want to enjoy the game from the get go. If wonderful 101 decides to ignore that fact, then it deserves to have the low sales and reviews that it did get. You can't just say that everyone who didn't like the game sucked.

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gatito on 10 August 2015

If it was a Sony/MS exclusive, had tons of meaningless cutscenes, replaced Inklings with some random dudes and wasn't any fun at all it might have a shot at GOTG.

You guys are too blinded by those so called AAA games (that do nothing but bring shame to this industry) to fully appreciate Splatoon's greatness. Maybe in a couple years you'll realize how much this game really meant to Nintendo and its impact and relevance for the 8th gen. Now go back to play The Order and pretend you like it to be cool.



Mike321 on 10 August 2015

The game is amazing but it still lacks content, even with the august update



                                                                                     

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Samus Aran on 10 August 2015
Mike321 said:
The game is amazing but it still lacks content, even with the august update

Yet it's my most played Wii U game already. ;)



Eddie_Raja on 10 August 2015

Haha ok buddy. No bias in that statement.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Mike321 on 10 August 2015
Samus Aran said:
Mike321 said:
The game is amazing but it still lacks content, even with the august update

Yet it's my most played Wii U game already. ;)


Is my second most played game behind smash and I love it, but it still lacks content to be a GOTG contender.



                                                                                     

snowdog on 10 August 2015

It's not too far off but The Wonderful 101 just edges ahead for me.



Nintyfan90 on 10 August 2015

How many maps does Splatoon have now?