He was trying to say the relationship had been better with nintendo by limiting the data(ignoring the MMOs and direct sequals to X and XIII and then being wrong about some of it. pointing out ports of PS titles while ignoring the ones for the ones on Nintendo. Plus leaving out that it wasn't that strong of a partnership because several of the games never went outside Japan on the NES or SNES.

While what I said "doesn't change what he said" what he said was selective, wrong and not a strong case for future games on the system.

If SE decide to put KH or FF on the next Nintendo system it will not be beacuse of games on the NES or SNES but because of current reasons. Like if the port is easy to make, if they think it will have enough sales.

SE i don't think gona spen money on port the game to a new consale.. Make more sense to 3ds

I did eventually admitted and corrected my mistake about the PC ports in another post since I didn't remembered they were late ports. I thought they came at the same time. Been a long time. So you can ignore that and simply put 5 unquestionable playstation exclusives.

I didnt include the MMOs because honestly, they are numbered Final Fantasy's for marketing purposes only. And the sequels? They are usually more side stories than anything else. Besides there has been sequels to mainline FFs in Nintendo platforms too (Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings and Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) so it isnt a big deal. But if I included those we all would be fighting about the merits of one sequel over another. And is for the same reason I didnt included all those DS/PSP remakes and other non numbered Final Fantasy's, some of them are Nintendo exclusives (Crystal Cronicles, Crystal Bearers, Chocobo Dungeons, My Life as a King or older games like the Final Fantasy Legends, Mistic Quest). Final Fantasy has been milked to death and the disscussion including everything would stink.

Simply including the main offline games and if they were exclusives during the generation they came out simplifies things and drives the point home. Which was that Nintendo had (past tense) a better relationship with Final Fantasy than the current one Microsoft has, which is getting FFXV. Not a single Microsoft fan has questioned it. The only whiners are Sony fanboys that are salty that Nintendo happened to end with a bigger number.

No one is questioning the relationship with Sony and if you include all the cheese (port, remake, MMO, subseries etc) there is no doubt that Sony comes on top. But Nintendo will be far from last place and, like I said, the last place is still getting XV so why cant the NX have it. Assuming it can handle it and its not a comercial bust (DUH!).

I was refering to FFI getting ported from the NES to MSX after 6 months so it wasn't an exclusive. (Fun fact MSX is a micrsoft system)The other thing I was pointing out was while 1-6 were on nintendo platforms, in the west there were only 3 games released at the time on those systems, so the franchise was very Japancentric. It wasn't until after 7 was huge that they brought more of the games to the west and even then it was no longer the systems they launched on.

As for it being on Microsoft vs Nintendo systems of current games, I think some of the versions were agreed upon well before this gen even started. If the NX does well especially in  Japan and can hadle the games they would likely port them or at least put another spin off on their next handheld.

Both happen. I'm also thinking that Mankind Divided, RoTR, and others also make it onto NX.

Neither. DQ is on NX because they expect it to sell well in Japan. Those two franchises don't focus on Japan. Not anymore and certainly not on home consoles.

I'd like to see Square-Enix go all in.

Why Dragon Quest XI and not Final Fantasy XV? Even the XBox One gets FFXV and NX is almost certain to outsell the XB1 in Japan by a mile. These are just silly arbitrary rules now.

FF7 Remake after whatever exclusivity period SE has over it should also be on the table for the NX.

If NX is going to be a unified platform, that means it's probably going to have Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Animal Crossing on it ... these are the six highest selling Japanese IP. Why leave out Final Fantasy? If XBox gets FF and KH games, NX should too if it's reasonably possible to port them.

The MSX wasn't a console. It was a MS-DOS based PC. If we are counting the late PC ports of FF1 then its fair we also count the late PC ports of VII and VIII. And why are you throwing that American BS? There is plenty of people on this site that aren't American, and quite a few Japanesse fellas. Also if you can use the japanese only MSX version of FF1 to disregard the exclusivity of FF1 then I can use the Japanese versions of the games that didn't came outside Japan.  

By your new rules, If we count the late PC ports (MSX was a PC) of the offline Final Fantasys that still came out during the same generation of its original debut console and since the MSX port of FF1 is JP only that makes Japanesse exclusives fair, then we can conclude the following:

5 Nintendo originaly exclusive off-line numbered Final Fantasys (II-VI). FF1 doesnt count because there was a MSX home computer version during the same generation. But II, III, and V count because said MSX port was also japanesse only, so its fair.

3 for Sony (IX,X and XII). Because the VII and VII both had PC ports during the same generation and XI had a PC version and is an MMO. XIV debuted on PC and is an MMO.

It got even worse.

Also, according to wikipedia, the SNES version of Final Fantasy VI sold almost 4 million copies. Most of them in Japan. Theres no doubt that VII did much more, specially outside Japan, but the Nintendo exclusive Final Fantasys were no slouch. Final Fantasy was a sucessful series since the first one debuted on the NES with a total of 1.1 million units sold, 700,000 of those in america not including the MSX port (wikipedia numbers again). Im not saying Final Fantasy did better on Nintendo than Sony, but the performance on Nintendo consoles was (past tense) still great.

The wild speculation needs to stop, it hasn't even been fully confirmed for dq, only "possibly in future".

Guys, what happens every time a new Nintendo console is annouced? Promises of alot of developer support, stupid poster that shows a bunch logos, then what? EA. Chill, ultimately NX's short term splash will decide SE's support.

Dont forget SE has done virtually nothing for Nintendo consoles since SNES and they wont publish/localize their shit.