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CWegzz on 19 July 2015

I feel like people have so much hope in the NX because if it flops, it could be their last console. Also, Nintendo has probably learned from all their mistakes with the Wii U, so Nintendo is most likely not going to make the same mistakes again.



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ohmylanta1003 on 19 July 2015

Why wouldn't there be? That's the better question. The Wii U isn't performing up to people's standards and Nintendo's role in the video game industry seems to be dwindling and we hope that the NX will help turn everything around. We're not saying it's going to. But ya gotta believe in something.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

pokoko on 19 July 2015

Because of a singular truth regarding video-game systems:


A previous generation cannot be used to accurately predict the outcome of the next generation.


This should be considered a law on VGC. It's why hope springs eternal.



Sixteenvolt420 on 19 July 2015

There is so much hope for it, because the Wii U is such a failure.



patronmacabre on 19 July 2015

While I think attain Wii-level success shouldn't be expected (unless it's a handheld/home console hybrid -- then I have no idea how outrageously successful it might be), I do hope, if it's just a regular console, that the system manages to get N64-like sales.



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traveler72 on 19 July 2015
ps3-sales! said:

Obviously I'm not the biggest Nintendo fan. But I have owned and enjoyed their consoles like the Wii, Gamecube, Snes, N64, and the DS. 

 

1.With that said. Obviously the WiiU is (as of now) a financial failure. 

 

2.I just don't get why there should be all this realistic optimism for the NX. Third parties have obviously already abandoned Nintendo and currently the PS4 is so dominant that it doesn't even need games to sell. 

 

3.The Xbone is also quite popular. 

 

4.So why so much hope? I doubt Nintendo will be successful with the NX. 

 

That's me just being logical. Not trying to be biased or hateful. 

 

There have been like 20 threads the last few days about the NX. It makes me chuckle a bit. 

1. Wii U is no financial failure. Nintendo doesn't take a loss on hardware and the software sells great as usual.

2. We don't know what NX is, so it's being optimistic has the same value as being pessimistic about it: none. third parties proved more than once that they can come and go. ps4 is far from being "so dominant that it doesn't even need games to sell".

3. Not really and not relevant to the subject.

4. Why do you doubt? as I said, we know notjing about NX.



traveler72 on 19 July 2015
archer9234 said:
teigaga said:

Why not? Improving upon on the the Wii U is not a hard task, there are so many things Nintendo done wrong that the logical step is for Nintendo to improve upon it. Normally when someone has an unexpectedly successful generation (PS2, wii, 360) they become complacent and make poor, ill thought out decisions. When they perform more modestly or fall below expectation (gamecube, Xbox, PS3) they tend to come back with a thoroughly well thought out console and business plan.

Nintendo has shown in the last year that they're ready to move with the times a bit with the plan to enter the mobile market and their acquisition of DeNA, which indicates a goal to greatly expand their online service and capabilities. They're no longer banking on the Wii audience which is all round good new for gamers. And the rumours of a shared library between console/handheld will certainly result in a more robust gaming platform then the Wii U.

I haven't heard anyone say that they expect NX to sell 100m units, people just think that it will be an improvement on what we're currently seeing from Nintendo and a far more profitable venture then the Wii U. A new system is always exciting, especially one where we don't really know what to expect.

Everything you just said was also said about Wii U. I will be on the side of caution. And not buy, till I see it do actually good.  Because the mobile market could do good. Since cheap games to make. But than the system market falls a part again, for the same reasons.

None of that was said about Wii U.



Soundwave on 19 July 2015

Improving doesn't necessarily guarantee better results either though.

The Dreamcast improved on the Saturn in several ways (easy to program for, 3D Sonic from launch, great 1st year roster of games, etc.). 

The GameCube improved on the N64 in a lot of ways (easy to program for, optical disc format, third party games, Japanese RPGs, Resident Evil exclusivity, etc.).



WolfpackN64 on 19 July 2015
ps3-sales! said:

I just don't get why there should be all this realistic optimism for the NX. Third parties have obviously already abandoned Nintendo and currently the PS4 is so dominant that it doesn't even need games to sell. 

 


If you think 3rd parties are loyal, you're simply naive. If they come out with a system that's easy to develop, easy to publish for. 3rd parties will chuck some games it way regardless of competition.



traveler72 on 19 July 2015
Miguel_Zorro said:
traveler72 said:

1. Wii U is no financial failure. Nintendo doesn't take a loss on hardware and the software sells great as usual.

2. We don't know what NX is, so it's being optimistic has the same value as being pessimistic about it: none. third parties proved more than once that they can come and go. ps4 is far from being "so dominant that it doesn't even need games to sell".

3. Not really and not relevant to the subject.

4. Why do you doubt? as I said, we know notjing about NX.


The last information I have was that Nintendo does that a loss on the WiiU and requires one game sale to break even.  Do you have more up to date information? 

That was at launch. do you think the dev costs remain unchanged for almost 3 years now? they weren't even losing that much per unit at launch, of course it's profiting now.