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BraLoD said:
DerNebel said:

Sony making another handheld would be extremely stupid of them imo. The dedicated handheld market will be dead in a matter of a couple years.

Well, we don't know.

Now, I think it will remain at a decent size and if Sony doesn't aim too high it can be still a chance to make money.

Vita support in Japan is still great and if they can approach the West in some way that would be great.

They need a good price and marketing from the go and if it can play PS4 games with PSNow, it would be amazing, imagine playing Uncharted 4 anywhere, that kind of stuff would be really nice.

They won't have a huge market, but I think they still van make it a good thing for them.

If it's just about being able to play PS4 games everywhere through PSNow then that will easily be solved by bringing the service to smartphones and tablets as Sony is planning to.

I'm personally absolutely sure that that market will disappear in a couple of years and for good reason, with the way technology is developing it is becoming clearer everyday that dedicated gaming handhelds are becoming entirely pointless, almost everybody has a smartphone and tablets are growing more and more popular as well and there is no relevant feature that the 3DS or Vita have that a smartphone or tablet with a simple button add-on couldn't do just as well or even better.

The other thing is that if Sony really decides to make a PS5 then we know from their current way of doing things that they'll go for a powerful system, that will mean they'll need more ressources to make games for that system in a situation like that having to also allocate people to make games for a handheld as well seems like a good way to just hurt your gaming business overall.

In todays market releasing a new dedicated handheld, no matter who does it, is an unwise decision that's my opinion.



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No PS4? One would think that with Cyber Sleuth getting a PS4 port, this will too. Maybe it'll be announced with the localization (like CS)?



DerNebel said:

Sony making another handheld would be extremely stupid of them imo. The dedicated handheld market will be dead in a matter of a couple years.

So you're predicting handhelds will be dead in two years from now?

By saying something like that you're also saying the following:

- Pokémon will die in 2 years from now.

- So will Yo-kai Watch

- So will Monster Hunter

- So will Animal Crossing

- The death of Tomodachi Life

- The death of Fire Emblem

- The death of Mario & Luigi rpg series

Yeah, sorry if I don't take you too seriously.

Also lol at the users who are trying to spin the failure of the Vita into something good... Console with the second most games coming up? I seriously doubt it unless that list includes a lot of shovelware games.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs said:
DerNebel said:
 

Sony making another handheld would be extremely stupid of them imo. The dedicated handheld market will be dead in a matter of a couple years.

So you're predicting handhelds will be dead in two years from now?

By saying something like that you're also saying the following:

- Pokémon will die in 2 years from now.

- So will Yo-kai Watch

- So will Monster Hunter

- So will Animal Crossing

- The death of Tomodachi Life

- The death of Fire Emblem

- The death of Mario & Luigi rpg series

Yeah, sorry if I don't take you too seriously.

Also lol at the users who are trying to spin the failure of the Vita into something good... Console with the second most games coming up? I seriously doubt it unless that list includes a lot of shovelware games.

I didn't mean a couple as in "two" but as in "some" and if you think the dedicated handheld market isn't facing serious issues then you really don't seem to have paid any attention in the last few years.

Also I don't expect all those franchises to die, they can easily move to mobile.



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DerNebel said:
Alkibiádēs said:

So you're predicting handhelds will be dead in two years from now?

By saying something like that you're also saying the following:

- Pokémon will die in 2 years from now.

- So will Yo-kai Watch

- So will Monster Hunter

- So will Animal Crossing

- The death of Tomodachi Life

- The death of Fire Emblem

- The death of Mario & Luigi rpg series

Yeah, sorry if I don't take you too seriously.

Also lol at the users who are trying to spin the failure of the Vita into something good... Console with the second most games coming up? I seriously doubt it unless that list includes a lot of shovelware games.

I didn't mean a couple as in "two" but as in "some" and if you think the dedicated handheld market isn't facing serious issues then you really don't seem to have paid any attention in the last few years.

Also I don't expect all those franchises to die, they can easily move to mobile.

Have you even played any of these games? You do realize they're designed around consoles with buttons right? Do you even know how the mobile market works? Hint: $40 games don't sell and piracy is huge.

Sony and MS will be long gone from the home console market before Pokémon released its final game. I just hope they invent some new colors in the meantime.

In fact with the rise of digital games and streaming services I wouldn't be surprised at all if handhelds outlived home consoles.

But hey, I'm sure God of War can easily move to mobile if Monster Hunter will do the same.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs said:
DerNebel said:

I didn't mean a couple as in "two" but as in "some" and if you think the dedicated handheld market isn't facing serious issues then you really don't seem to have paid any attention in the last few years.

Also I don't expect all those franchises to die, they can easily move to mobile.

Have you even played any of these games? You do realize they're designed around consoles with buttons right? Do you even know how the mobile market works? Hint: $40 games don't sell and piracy is huge.

Sony and MS will be long gone from the home console market before Pokémon released its final game. I just hope they invent some new colors in the meantime.

In fact with the rise of digital games and streaming services I wouldn't be surprised at all if handhelds outlived home consoles.

But hey, I'm sure God of War can easily move to mobile if Monster Hunter will do the same.

Good job reading everything I posted:

"I'm personally absolutely sure that that market will disappear in a couple of years and for good reason, with the way technology is developing it is becoming clearer everyday that dedicated gaming handhelds are becoming entirely pointless, almost everybody has a smartphone and tablets are growing more and more popular as well and there is no relevant feature that the 3DS or Vita have that a smartphone or tablet with a simple button add-on couldn't do just as well or even better."

And guess what, pricing models can change and if piracy was deemed a big problem then we wouldn't have huge parts of the industry moving towards mobile already, especially in Japan.

You're acting as if the idea of releasing full console level games on mobile is completely foreign, when games like GTA San Andreas or DQVIII have already released on there.

And in what world are dedicated handhelds less affected by digital games and streaming services? Since their games are smaller and simpler they are in fact a lot more in danger from those things.

But hey nice of you to bring Sony and MS into this like a good Nintendo defender, cause my point here was totally to attack Nintendo...



DerNebel said:
Alkibiádēs said:
DerNebel said:

I didn't mean a couple as in "two" but as in "some" and if you think the dedicated handheld market isn't facing serious issues then you really don't seem to have paid any attention in the last few years.

Also I don't expect all those franchises to die, they can easily move to mobile.

Have you even played any of these games? You do realize they're designed around consoles with buttons right? Do you even know how the mobile market works? Hint: $40 games don't sell and piracy is huge.

Sony and MS will be long gone from the home console market before Pokémon released its final game. I just hope they invent some new colors in the meantime.

In fact with the rise of digital games and streaming services I wouldn't be surprised at all if handhelds outlived home consoles.

But hey, I'm sure God of War can easily move to mobile if Monster Hunter will do the same.

Good job reading everything I posted:

"I'm personally absolutely sure that that market will disappear in a couple of years and for good reason, with the way technology is developing it is becoming clearer everyday that dedicated gaming handhelds are becoming entirely pointless, almost everybody has a smartphone and tablets are growing more and more popular as well and there is no relevant feature that the 3DS or Vita have that a smartphone or tablet with a simple button add-on couldn't do just as well or even better."

And guess what, pricing models can change and if piracy was deemed a big problem then we wouldn't have huge parts of the industry moving towards mobile already, especially in Japan.

You're acting as if the idea of releasing full console level games on mobile is completely foreign, when games like GTA San Andreas or DQVIII have already released on there.

And in what world are dedicated handhelds less affected by digital games and streaming services? Since their games are smaller and simpler they are in fact a lot more in danger from those things.

But hey nice of you to bring Sony and MS into this like a good Nintendo defender, cause my point here was totally to attack Nintendo...

You can't game on the go without a dedicated handheld device (or smartphone) in the first place. You can easily go without home consoles in the future.

Tell me, can franchises like GTA and Dragon Quest survive solely on mobile revenue? Of course not, anyone with a little bit of common sense would realize that. Have you played GTA on a smartphone? It's not very fun without a traditional controller, trust me.

Please tell me even one $40-60 game that was succesful on smartphones. Most games that have been succesful on mobile platforms were/are what Iwata liked to call "free-to-start" games, there's no reason to pirate a free game... Too bad they're filled with micro-transactions and advertisements (where most of the revenue comes from).  And yes, your bias against handhelds probably has something to do with Nintendo dominating in that market.

Besides, Pokémon on the 3DS is selling on par with Pokémon on the DS. They'd be crazy to turn it into a mobile only game in a "couple of years" from now. Thank God you're not leading a multi-billion dollar company. You'd put all your eggs into one (mobile) basket without doing proper research or preperation.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

I hope we get this in Europe, Digimon World >>> Digimon Story.



Yeah good times with digimon on the ps1
I hope we will see a day that a game like Digimon World get to be made



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