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Need for Speed



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Aeolus451 said:


I'm not commanding you to do anything. I don't know where you're getting the idea from that i'm trying to boss you around  but you're missing the entire point of my first post and last post to you.

When people started to critize bethesda, you went on the defensive. Like how a mama pig protects it's young. Your first post in the thread was exactly that.

"I mean, as far as "broken" games go, I've got hundreds of hours played in them, so they must not be too broken.  I anticipate the same with Fallout 4." That's the rhertoric of any disiple of bethesda. 

Not once in any post in the thread did you acknowledge the full extent of the glitches in their games and how much that's "annoying" it's fanbase nor did you say anything that it should change. You've only defended bethesda for their low quality of games in this thread hence I called you out on being a disiple and being deadset against any criticism about bethesda.

You are lying.  Either that, or you suffer greatly with reading comprehension.  My first post was entirely about someone talking about "hype", when it's pretty obvious that people want to play Fallout 4 because they loved the previous games.  Try reading it again, perhaps slowly this time.  I mean that literally.

Then you tell me "no" because you think you know if I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas or not?  Are you really that arrogant?  I said that I have hundreds of hours into the game and that's true, whether you like it or not.  You're just going to have to deal with that fact.  I mean, honestly, you sound like a crying baby throwing a tandrum and shouting, "no," over something that is true.

Here, I'll do you a favor and explain this nice and slow to you.  Even with annoying bugs and glitches, millions of people liked what the Fallout games brought to the table.  It's that simple.  They liked them enough that they want Fallout 4; though they hope and speculate that it will be improved in the bug department, they'll still take it over most games even if it isn't.  That's how much they liked playing the previous games.  You don't have to like it but damn if you're not going to have to learn to live with it.  You can pout about it all you like but it changes nothing.



pokoko said:
Aeolus451 said:


I'm not commanding you to do anything. I don't know where you're getting the idea from that i'm trying to boss you around  but you're missing the entire point of my first post and last post to you.

When people started to critize bethesda, you went on the defensive. Like how a mama pig protects it's young. Your first post in the thread was exactly that.

"I mean, as far as "broken" games go, I've got hundreds of hours played in them, so they must not be too broken.  I anticipate the same with Fallout 4." That's the rhertoric of any disiple of bethesda. 

Not once in any post in the thread did you acknowledge the full extent of the glitches in their games and how much that's "annoying" it's fanbase nor did you say anything that it should change. You've only defended bethesda for their low quality of games in this thread hence I called you out on being a disiple and being deadset against any criticism about bethesda.

You are lying.  Either that, or you suffer greatly with reading comprehension.  My first post was entirely about someone talking about "hype", when it's pretty obvious that people want to play Fallout 4 because they loved the previous games.  Try reading it again, perhaps slowly this time.  I mean that literally.

Then you tell me "no" because you think you know if I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas or not?  Are you really that arrogant?  I said that I have hundreds of hours into the game and that's true, whether you like it or not.  You're just going to have to deal with that fact.  I mean, honestly, you sound like a crying baby throwing a tandrum and shouting, "no," over something that is true.

Here, I'll do you a favor and explain this nice and slow to you.  Even with annoying bugs and glitches, millions of people liked what the Fallout games brought to the table.  It's that simple.  They liked them enough that they want Fallout 4; though they hope and speculate that it will be improved in the bug department, they'll still take it over most games even if it isn't.  That's how much they liked playing the previous games.  You don't have to like it but damn if you're not going to have to learn to live with it.  You can pout about it all you like but it changes nothing.

Reading comprehension huh? My "No." was in response to your questions. " If you don't want to play it, I dunno, maybe you can move on?  Play something else and not worry about the millions of people who are enjoying themselves?  Sound like a plan?"

I guess you forgot that you asked questions.

What am I lying about? You've been on the defensive and not acknowledging the full extent of the bugs in any bethesda game or how it pisses people off. You've been talking about how great the games makes the disiples....oh I meant "fans" feel in spite of the bugs. 

If you and your fellow loyalists with the other fans would vocalize the problems in their games to bethesda, shit would change for the better. You don't have to put up with buggy games.



Aeolus451 said:

Reading comprehension huh? My "No." was in response to your questions. " If you don't want to play it, I dunno, maybe you can move on?  Play something else and not worry about the millions of people who are enjoying themselves?  Sound like a plan?"

I guess you forgot that you asked questions.

What am I lying about? You've been on the defensive and not acknowledging the full extent of the bugs in any bethesda game or how it pisses people off. You've been talking about how great the games makes the disiples....oh I meant "fans" feel in spite of the bugs. 

If you and your fellow loyalists with the other fans would vocalize the problems in their games to bethesda, shit would change for the better. You don't have to put up with buggy games.


He doesn't have to put up with them. But he does, because to him the positives far outweigh the negatives. Is it that difficult to grasp?

You say you didn't tell him what to like or not. While that's true you didn't word it this way, the way you belittled his position to make it so it appears to be stupid to support games like that is basically the same thing as telling him he shouldn't support Fallout 4.

While he got way too defensive towards the way some of you talked about Fallout 4, your reaction to him wasn't any better.



Protendo said:

Best Racing Game
Need for Speed

Am I the only one who thinks NFS looked like absolute shit? That camera when you drift through a corner, ugh. And you can still ram into anything without penalty and go through corners at 150 miles an hour.



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Hynad said:
Aeolus451 said:

Reading comprehension huh? My "No." was in response to your questions. " If you don't want to play it, I dunno, maybe you can move on?  Play something else and not worry about the millions of people who are enjoying themselves?  Sound like a plan?"

I guess you forgot that you asked questions.

What am I lying about? You've been on the defensive and not acknowledging the full extent of the bugs in any bethesda game or how it pisses people off. You've been talking about how great the games makes the disiples....oh I meant "fans" feel in spite of the bugs. 

If you and your fellow loyalists with the other fans would vocalize the problems in their games to bethesda, shit would change for the better. You don't have to put up with buggy games.


He doesn't have to put up with them. But he does, because to him the positives far outweigh the negatives. Is it that difficult to grasp?

You say you didn't tell him what to like or not. While that's true you didn't word it this way, the way you belittled his position to make it so it appears to be stupid to support games like that is basically the same thing as telling him he shouldn't support Fallout 4.

While he got way too defensive towards the way some of you talked about Fallout 4, your reaction to him wasn't any better.

I didn't say anything about supporting or not supporting fallout 4/bethesda. I said that in other words that the fans of their games should give bethesda all of the flak that is due to 'em for releasing broken games and shit will change. Yes, I go after people's opinion or points. 

The gaming community will for most part go all out ape shit if other devs/pulishers release a broken game just once. Bethesda gets a free pass because it's been releasing broken games for a long time and the fans of their games are just used to low quality games. Before someone gives me some flak on that, quality in a game is often determined by how well it works and not being buggy. 



Protendo said:

Best Racing Game
Need for Speed


It's logical though, most people prefer fun to simulation, and the only one was NFS



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Wagram said:

Fallout 4 is not deserving of best of show to me and it really has to do with quality. Bethesda products are unfinished, have endless bugs, poor writing, and silly design decisions, but people praise them for it. Fallout 4 looks to be no different, and the hype has overtaken once more. Will it be a solid release and experience? Definitely, but awarding products that are borderline unfinished is a slap in the face to any developer who cares. It's insulting and it really does piss me off.


Broken and glitchy Bethesda game >>> 99% of other games on the market. Plus all the improvements to this one, wow. We are humbled.

Also, LOL @ Uncharted being an adventure game. 

Also, LOL @ NFS best racer. Actually thats more scary than funny.



Judges list :


Associated Press
Ars Technica
AusGamers
Destructoid
Edge
EGM
Electric Playground
Engadget
Entertainment Weekly
Eurogamer
Famitsu
Fortune
Game Informer
GameReactor
Games Radar
GameSpot
GameTrailers
Gannett News Service
Giant Bomb
IGN
JeuxVideo
Kotaku
LA Times
LevelUp
Mashable
Meristation
Nerdist
PC Gamer
Polygon
SpieleTipps
Spike TV
Sun Media
The Escapist
UOL Jogos
US Gamer
USA Today
VentureBeat
Yahoo



That confirms the general opinion



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

LudicrousSpeed said:
Wagram said:

Fallout 4 is not deserving of best of show to me and it really has to do with quality. Bethesda products are unfinished, have endless bugs, poor writing, and silly design decisions, but people praise them for it. Fallout 4 looks to be no different, and the hype has overtaken once more. Will it be a solid release and experience? Definitely, but awarding products that are borderline unfinished is a slap in the face to any developer who cares. It's insulting and it really does piss me off.


Broken and glitchy Bethesda game >>> 99% of other games on the market. Plus all the improvements to this one, wow. We are humbled.

Also, LOL @ Uncharted being an adventure game. 

Also, LOL @ NFS best racer. Actually thats more scary than funny.

What is it, if not an Action/Adventure Game?