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Dark_Feanor said:


PS: Uncharted 4 was showed and promissed 60FPS, it has to be cuted in the campain for it the game have more open and dinamic areas. Where is the outcry and people asking for "give me 60FPS of give death"?

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When you come back, I would appreciate if you'd provide a source that shows Naughty Dog promised 60fps for Uncharted 4.
Saying they're targetting 60fps isn't making a promise the it will happen. 



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Honestly I would rather have split screen, without it I just don't care about this series anymore.



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ethomaz said:
Headshot said:
If it comes to it then resolution should be sacrificed for a locked 60fps. Resolution is a non issue in comparison.

Don't know what ethomaz is talking about but the same devs never confirmed splitscreen multiple times for halo 5.

They did.

At E4 2014.

Plus...

Plus...

 

I can go on... they really confirmed the feature multiple times.

They confirmed one or two weeks ago splitscreen on GAF too... after that GAF said they lied and a huge post from the devs was posted in the Halo OT trying to explain the compromisses.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=170355245&postcount=13139


2player split screen is better than nothing but lack of 4 player is still disappointing.



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The lack of split screen is lame...Couch Co-Op was one of the things I loved most about the series...

It will be a big disappointment if the game fails to reach at least mostly stable 60 fps performance. 720 @ 60 fps would be a worthwhile trade off for an fps like Halo.



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ethomaz said:

They confirmed splitscreen at E3 2014.

Re-confirmed in December 2014.

Droped after E3 2015.

That is not made up... it is what happened... GAF is really upset about that not just in the OT thread but outside it because they dropped a feature confirmed by devs before.

Now you believe what you want... I just showed the facts.

PS. He is not a single dev... he is the head producer of the game and he confirmed/denied others features in the game... it is he job do that... the other dev on GAF confirmed they dropped splitscreen recently.

He is the same guy that confirmed no splitscreen now.


Okay, I think i know a tad more about the halo community than you. Almost nobody is upset because they supposedly "confirmed" it was definitely in the game then took it out so stop spreading this nonsense because its false. HaloGaf is filled to the brim with people faking interest in halo to push their own agenda and frankie says as much, check the beyond forums or halo waypoint forums and you'll find that everybody is upset with the fact that its omitted from the game rather than because it was confirmed and they had been lied to. I know who Josh Holmes is and anybody with half a brain knows that before a beta is even released, off hand tweets saying a feature is in the game are not confirmation that it will definitely be in the game and the game is always subject to change, especially as the beta had not even began.

Not even a month after his previous tweets he changed the wording and included the word "plan". Could he have worded his previous tweets regarding splitscreen better? Yes, but these tweets were not confirmation of it definitely being in the game. At no time during E3 2014 did they confirm splitscreen so again stop spreading false information. E3 2014 was almost exclusively about MCC.

http://teambeyond.net/forum/topic/9893-halo-5-guardians-wont-have-split-screen/

Look at the negative reaction in this thread. Literally everyone is complaining that they have taken such a key feature out of halo, not that they were lied to.



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ethomaz said:


No. Your mind is just nonsense.

What Destiny or Uncharted have to do with this thread... Or is just your bias?

Show me proof... any... about Bungie saying they will have more planets... Destiny have flaws but number of planets is not one of them lol and it really delivered something unique (Destiny way different from Halo).


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlvm2ercoU[/youtybe]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=destiny+cut+content

https://www.bungie.net/en/forum/post/70895980/0/0

I can confirm that there were sudden and abrupt changes in the development of Destiny less than a year ago. There was tension between higher ups the entire time we were developing the title due to a lack of cohesion about the vision for the game. One side wanted this huge space epic, like an MMO Mass Effect and the other side was not convinced that would sell and wanted to pare things back to more "easily accessible" standards. They were afraid too much story elements and cut scenes would drive players off.

 

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And

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-21-uncharted-4-is-pushing-for-1080p60-on-playstation-4

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That means next year's Uncharted 4 will also be targeting 1080p60.

"I think that's what we want to push for with anything we're doing on this generation," said Meyer. "That's sort of the mandate from when we were building the PS4 engine. Let's see if we can do this and hit it. We hit it with The Last of Us Remastered, so why not stick with this?"

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Have fun.



daredevil.shark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.


Haha how is simple:  They will be a lot stronger than the Xbox One.



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Dark_Feanor said:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlvm2ercoU[/youtybe]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=destiny+cut+content

https://www.bungie.net/en/forum/post/70895980/0/0

I can confirm that there were sudden and abrupt changes in the development of Destiny less than a year ago. There was tension between higher ups the entire time we were developing the title due to a lack of cohesion about the vision for the game. One side wanted this huge space epic, like an MMO Mass Effect and the other side was not convinced that would sell and wanted to pare things back to more "easily accessible" standards. They were afraid too much story elements and cut scenes would drive players off.

 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-21-uncharted-4-is-pushing-for-1080p60-on-playstation-4

...

That means next year's Uncharted 4 will also be targeting 1080p60.

"I think that's what we want to push for with anything we're doing on this generation," said Meyer. "That's sort of the mandate from when we were building the PS4 engine. Let's see if we can do this and hit it. We hit it with The Last of Us Remastered, so why not stick with this?"

...

Have fun.

Where is the proof?

Because what I can see in these videos and the reddit thread is speculation and Deej real community manager of Bungie) saying you are being trolled lol

Now I posted evidences about my clains from REAL i343 employees.

About Uncharted 4 "targeting" says all, no?

That is the difference between me and you... I work with facts... you create speculation to try to defense a point you don't have.



Headshot said:

Okay, I think i know a tad more about the halo community than you. Almost nobody is upset because they supposedly "confirmed" it was definitely in the game then took it out so stop spreading this nonsense because its false. HaloGaf is filled to the brim with people faking interest in halo to push their own agenda and frankie says as much, check the beyond forums or halo waypoint forums and you'll find that everybody is upset with the fact that its omitted from the game rather than because it was confirmed and they had been lied to. I know who Josh Holmes is and anybody with half a brain knows that before a beta is even released, off hand tweets saying a feature is in the game are not confirmation that it will definitely be in the game and the game is always subject to change, especially as the beta had not even began.

Not even a month after his previous tweets he changed the wording and included the word "plan". Could he have worded his previous tweets regarding splitscreen better? Yes, but these tweets were not confirmation of it definitely being in the game. At no time during E3 2014 did they confirm splitscreen so again stop spreading false information. E3 2014 was almost exclusively about MCC.

http://teambeyond.net/forum/topic/9893-halo-5-guardians-wont-have-split-screen/

Look at the negative reaction in this thread. Literally everyone is complaining that they have taken such a key feature out of halo, not that they were lied to.

Halo waypoint has the same threads talking how they dropped the feature confirmed before...

So no... I'm just spreading facts from the own devs... they confirmed, they dropped and they explained why... if you don't believe them it is your problem, not mine... they were clear about the performance compromissing the feature.



ethomaz said:

Where is the proof?

Because what I can see in these videos and the reddit thread is speculation and Deej real community manager of Bungie) saying you are being trolled lol

Now I posted evidences about my clains from REAL i343 employees.

About Uncharted 4 "targeting" says all, no?

That is the difference between me and you... I work with facts... you create speculation to try to defense a point you don't have.


Ok, what is your point?

I supose is similar to that far way 2013 when likes of Thuway  words were considered gospel. Thus the XOne were to be a technical and enginer disaster with games running poorly and lots of bugs.

Is your point that Halo 5 developent is a mess and the game is in an unplayable state and would be until release?  Just because a feature that few people use nowerdays was cutted.

However when I show you some evidence that not everthing works perfectly with other developers you simplely ignore. Why?

This situation happens with every develorper. Halo 2 had the entire last quarte of the campain reworked a few months before launch. They cutted a entire level at the Moon and  veicles were removed.

See this video? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_y3cbIV-Xg

There is nothing of this level in the final game.