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What NX device will you buy in 2016?

NX Handheld 26 13.68%
 
NX Console 46 24.21%
 
Both 78 41.05%
 
Wii U 39 20.53%
 
Total:189
SuperNova said:

They will offer Nx through a nintedo-like solution? That.....what does that even mean?
I'm pretty convinced NX is hardware but how can you offer hardware 'through a nintendo-like solution'?
Understocking? (jk)
Maybe it is the language barrier and that's why I'm not getting it but other than selling new hardware at stores aka the solution everyone uses to bring new hardware to the consumer, what other solutions could there be? Maybe I'm too hung up on the wording, but...it's strange.

 

Edit: ok, I brain-farted! I wasn't reading too carefully but now I get the fricking sentence! It's the software lineup they intent to offer though their solution...ok. That makes more sense. I guess summer is too hot over here. I cant think straight anymore! XD


Hehe, it was an error in translation. You are actually right in regards of that.



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zorg1000 said:

3DS & Wii U had awful post-launch software output.

3DS launched in March 2011 with Nintendogs+Cats as the big 1st party title and Pilotwings Resort/Steel Diver as smaller support titles. The next 6 months had a total of two 1st party releases which were both 13-14 year old N64 remaster (Ocarina of Time 3D in June, Star Fox 64 3D on September).

Wii U launched in November 2012 and had two big 1st party releases, Nintendo Land & New Super Mario Bros U. They had two 1st releases in the following 9 months, Game & Wario in June & Pikmin 3 in August.

Having a consistent flow of 1st party software would be different than having 6-9 months stretches of only 2 games. He kinda mentions getting back to what Wii did, which pretty much had a new 1st party release every month for the first year.


Yeah, that's a good point. I'd agree with this. It fits with my theory that "Nintendo-like" really means "Wii/DS-era." Though not with the "unique" idea.



I'm thinking it'll be a new console, using a new SOC made using AMD's most current power efficient, but cost effective technology available in 2016, like a Puma or Excavator based APU (I would have sad Zen, but I think Zen will be coming to the server market first and supply volumes may not be sufficient for other markets until later), HBM and perhaps DDR4 if memory volume can't be provided all from HBM.
Overall system performance would be at a decent leap over PS4 (it would be a system releasing 3 years after PS4), made to easily run current 3rd Party games, with Nintendo also partnering up with external publishers/developers to get more games to suit that market from the beginning.

Price wise it would be in the same ballpark as PS4 when it releases.

DeNA basically solves the issues Nintendo had with Wii U's online.

The Nintendo spin for this is that it could basically run all software from home consoles to handheld machines, which would give the system a huge library of games to play from day one, plus there would be those new gen titles as well as the core selling factor.
This cross play capability could be handled seamlessly by a secondary SOC or even an MCM similar to Wii U's, only using more up to date tech.

Nintendo could also offer a standard free online system and a premium, subscription model like PS+ and XBL, which gives monthly games, but handled in a unique way to Nintendo.

If NX isn't this, then I think the other possibility is that it's still a Wii U/3DS hybrid, but one that is slightly more powerful.

I don't think the first NX system would be a handheld that can play Wii U games, just because it would be too pricy if it's releasing late next year and battery tech isn't quite capable enough to support a mobile system on that level.



Bofferbrauer said:

I really hope something like this is going to happen. There are so many dormant good IPs with a seizable Fanbase, if Nintendo could lay it's hand on just a few of those their next consoles are basically guaranteed to be hits.

F-Zero fans are the most patient fans on the planet.



Pavolink said:

He's mostly refering to the software solution. Having a steady stream of games since launch and sharing most of the library between devices will help.

For example, taking in count 3DS and Wii U software, NX will have in ist first year NSMBU+Nintendo Land+Ocarina of Time 3D+Star Fox 64+Super Mario 3D World+Mario Kart 7+The Wind Waker HD+Pikmin 3+The Wonderful 101+Kid Icarus Uprising.

But I'm expecting NX to have in it's first year Zelda HD+3D Mario+Mario Kart+Animal Crossing.

1 year = 12 months


There's no way a new Mario Kart is coming out that soon. Same with Smash. The more likely thing is that both will be offered on the NX as though they were NX games because they will be playable anyway. MK8 and Smash 4 are the NX's MK8 and Smash Bros NX. They might rerelease the games on NX with all DLC included and call them "Smash Bros. for NX" and "Mario Kart 8: NX," and continue to update the software afterwards, but that's it for a long time. Definitely not within the next two years.

In other words, the NX isn't just a unified library between the NX systems, but with the Wii U as well. And maybe the 3DS.



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Johnw1104 said:
"On a different note, I believe the standard for software publishers in selecting what hardware to provide their games for is the installed base after all."

This is very true. For all the talk about how it's difficult to port to the wii u, if it had sold like the wii did 3rd parries wouldn't have gone anywhere.


They didn't support the Wii with AAA multiplats because of the hardware. Would have been the same with the Wii U.



It's pretty obvious if you change it around to be less confusing.

The problem with our console business recently has been lack of supportive third party publishers.
We are looking to fix that, and we have that solution for the NX.
There are many considerations and preparations to avoid what happened with the previous generation.

This is supported by the recent rumours of Android emulation, along with the "fusion concept".
I would imagine a tablet that can support both 3ds and wiiU games, and play android. Thus oblivating the need to actually have third party devs.
I'm thinking that basically, nintendo is saying "fuck you Big third party devs. We'll be perfectly fine with mobile support"



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after lots of "please understand"



Very peculiar statement, what happened with previous generations consistently was lack of third parties, two platforms that share one library or a fusion like platform would solve a lot of the drought problems.

However it seems to focus specifically on third party support, the interesting part is that the are proposals, is some kind of Steam like platform launching with NX?



Unifying the platforms will basically be the solution to launch lulls.

If the 3DS-Wii U were a unified platform that shared software, the Wii U's first year lineup would've been this ...

NSMBU, Nintendo Land, Fire Emblem Awakening, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Super Mario 3D World, Luigi's Mansion 2, Pokemon X/Y, Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Game & Wario, Wii Party U, LEGO City, and probably an extra game on top of that because NSMB2 wouldn't have been needed because you would have NSMBU already.

That's more than a game per month for the first year and several of Nintendo's big IP ... 2D Mario, Animal Crossing, 2D Zelda, 3D Mario, Luigi's Mansion, and Pokemon all in one year? Not too shabby.