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NathObeaN on 20 July 2015

Always love new console launches, I would like to get myself a Nintendo console providing the games are personally appealing. Will wait with anticipation but I am holding my breath as I haven't been interested in Nintendo since the Gamecube.



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JEMC on 20 July 2015
bonzobanana said:
JEMC said:
bonzobanana said:


 A budget VR system running at a slightly lower resolution with the underlying hardware not super capable but still capable of amazing 3D for cartoon graphics like Mario and Zelda is perfectly possible.  However that said I really don't know what NX is and may be something completely different.

Even with  cartoon graphics as you say, an VR headset with low resolution displays would be a bad idea as the experience would be subpar.

VR headsets don't go with high pixel density displays just for the sake of it, but because they are needed. And with those displays comes the need for hardware powerful enough to feed all those pixels, even with cartoony games.


Comfortable VR is more about eliminating lag so that when you rotate your head the world quickly turns with you. When I tried the original Oculus Rift the resolution was terrible but the experience still amazing on the roller coaster ride. It really is possible for Nintendo to create a VR device quite cheaply, a device at a level enough for many of Nintendo's own franchises. Typical Nintendo graphics with bright simple colours, often repeated textures and a basic game world not requiring realistic physics or graphics effects is certainly possible. Don't forget there are already many VR experiences on IOS, Android etc that make use of the cardboard VR goggles and we are talking about something that sits between those and the full fat PC/PS4 VR experience.

But even if they go with a cheap VR solution, the first Oculus Rift units like the one you used were sold for $300.

Sure, if Nintendo made them, the cost would go notably down (mass production, cheaper prices, etc.), but that would still put it at someling like $100-150. And then you have to add the cost of the console, another $150-200.

The result is another expensive (by Nintendo standarts) machine that, as Iwata or Miyamoto said, is the last thing they want to do.

 

Also. let's not forget that Nintendo is linked mostly to kids, and the use of the a 3D screen already caused some minor controversy about it and how would that affect the kids. Imagine what would happen if they go with VR, that implies putting a screen a few inches away from a kids eyes!



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Wyrdness on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

Probably for launch we will have 3D Mario, Zelda U port and maybe that Diddy Kong Racing rumour or something else, that would be pretty strong launch titles.


It'll probably be a version of Zelda U and another first party title provided NX is a home console based title, the most successful launch Nintendo has ever had was with a Zelda title after all and tbh Zelda U does does look to become one of the most stand out titles with its open world approach.



Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

Probably for launch we will have 3D Mario, Zelda U port and maybe that Diddy Kong Racing rumour or something else, that would be pretty strong launch titles.


It'll probably be a version of Zelda U and another first party title provided NX is a home console based title, the most successful launch Nintendo has ever had was with a Zelda title after all and tbh Zelda U does does look to become one of the most stand out titles with its open world approach.

Mario 3D World was finished in 2013, and we know long time ago that Nintendo working on next 3D Mario Game, we can easily have Mario 3D game for launch, with port of Zelda U and some game similar to Wii Sports or Nintendo Land it would be very good launch titles.



Wyrdness on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

Mario 3D World was finished in 2013, and we know long time ago that Nintendo working on next 3D Mario Game, we can easily have Mario 3D game for launch, with port of Zelda U and some game similar to Wii Sports or Nintendo Land it would be very good launch titles.


I'd think they'd want to be more strategic with their releases with the NX as tbh the Wii U has had much better releases then it's predecessor but they weren't very strategic in their releases hence why momentum for the platform has been inconsistent, going by a speculated Q4 2016 release Zelda U may be a U title at heart but it'd still be a new game so I can see that at launch with a Wii Sports type of title to start initial momentum, if a 3D Mario game is ready to go I can see them releasing that in the May after that then E3 shows what's coming for 2017 Q4. The reason I say this is that they spread the momentum of two system sellers more even then rather then each of them cannibalizing the other.

If the platform is indeed a console/portable hybrid I can see several first party titles in the first year as they'd no longer be spread across two platforms.



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Miyamotoo on 20 July 2015
Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

Mario 3D World was finished in 2013, and we know long time ago that Nintendo working on next 3D Mario Game, we can easily have Mario 3D game for launch, with port of Zelda U and some game similar to Wii Sports or Nintendo Land it would be very good launch titles.


I'd think they'd want to be more strategic with their releases with the NX as tbh the Wii U has had much better releases then it's predecessor but they weren't very strategic in their releases hence why momentum for the platform has been inconsistent, going by a speculated Q4 2016 release Zelda U may be a U title at heart but it'd still be a new game so I can see that at launch with a Wii Sports type of title to start initial momentum, if a 3D Mario game is ready to go I can see them releasing that in the May after that then E3 shows what's coming for 2017 Q4. The reason I say this is that they spread the momentum of two system sellers more even then rather then each of them cannibalizing the other.

If the platform is indeed a console/portable hybrid I can see several first party titles in the first year as they'd no longer be spread across two platforms.

I think that would be main point for hybrid, because they always had shortages of games.



asqarkabab on 20 July 2015

This year the handheld and next year the console its plausible



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bonzobanana on 22 July 2015
JEMC said:
bonzobanana said:
JEMC said:
bonzobanana said:


 A budget VR system running at a slightly lower resolution with the underlying hardware not super capable but still capable of amazing 3D for cartoon graphics like Mario and Zelda is perfectly possible.  However that said I really don't know what NX is and may be something completely different.

Even with  cartoon graphics as you say, an VR headset with low resolution displays would be a bad idea as the experience would be subpar.

VR headsets don't go with high pixel density displays just for the sake of it, but because they are needed. And with those displays comes the need for hardware powerful enough to feed all those pixels, even with cartoony games.


Comfortable VR is more about eliminating lag so that when you rotate your head the world quickly turns with you. When I tried the original Oculus Rift the resolution was terrible but the experience still amazing on the roller coaster ride. It really is possible for Nintendo to create a VR device quite cheaply, a device at a level enough for many of Nintendo's own franchises. Typical Nintendo graphics with bright simple colours, often repeated textures and a basic game world not requiring realistic physics or graphics effects is certainly possible. Don't forget there are already many VR experiences on IOS, Android etc that make use of the cardboard VR goggles and we are talking about something that sits between those and the full fat PC/PS4 VR experience.

But even if they go with a cheap VR solution, the first Oculus Rift units like the one you used were sold for $300.

Sure, if Nintendo made them, the cost would go notably down (mass production, cheaper prices, etc.), but that would still put it at someling like $100-150. And then you have to add the cost of the console, another $150-200.

The result is another expensive (by Nintendo standarts) machine that, as Iwata or Miyamoto said, is the last thing they want to do.

 

Also. let's not forget that Nintendo is linked mostly to kids, and the use of the a 3D screen already caused some minor controversy about it and how would that affect the kids. Imagine what would happen if they go with VR, that implies putting a screen a few inches away from a kids eyes!


The technology of VR isn't that expensive. The original oculus rift used a basic mobile phone screen and better screens now are super cheap.  Entry level quad core phones with 1080p screens are about £100 or less. This is something that Nintendo could achieve. To be honest its the only thing that comes to mind as a possibility for being a runaway hit that could sell 20 million easily in the first year. VR doesn't have to have state of the art graphics. The VR experience itself will add hugely to the playability. The feeling of immersion with VR is amazing and I'm quite happy with the VR world being a cartoon nintendo style world rather than a VR world with realistic graphics. 



zorg1000 on 22 July 2015
asqarkabab said:
This year the handheld and next year the console its plausible


No, a new handheld this year is not plausible, the software release schedule for the next 12 months is too strong for them to be releasing new hardware in the next 4 months.

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JEMC on 23 July 2015
bonzobanana said:
JEMC said:
bonzobanana said:


Comfortable VR is more about eliminating lag so that when you rotate your head the world quickly turns with you. When I tried the original Oculus Rift the resolution was terrible but the experience still amazing on the roller coaster ride. It really is possible for Nintendo to create a VR device quite cheaply, a device at a level enough for many of Nintendo's own franchises. Typical Nintendo graphics with bright simple colours, often repeated textures and a basic game world not requiring realistic physics or graphics effects is certainly possible. Don't forget there are already many VR experiences on IOS, Android etc that make use of the cardboard VR goggles and we are talking about something that sits between those and the full fat PC/PS4 VR experience.

But even if they go with a cheap VR solution, the first Oculus Rift units like the one you used were sold for $300.

Sure, if Nintendo made them, the cost would go notably down (mass production, cheaper prices, etc.), but that would still put it at someling like $100-150. And then you have to add the cost of the console, another $150-200.

The result is another expensive (by Nintendo standarts) machine that, as Iwata or Miyamoto said, is the last thing they want to do.

 

Also. let's not forget that Nintendo is linked mostly to kids, and the use of the a 3D screen already caused some minor controversy about it and how would that affect the kids. Imagine what would happen if they go with VR, that implies putting a screen a few inches away from a kids eyes!


The technology of VR isn't that expensive. The original oculus rift used a basic mobile phone screen and better screens now are super cheap.  Entry level quad core phones with 1080p screens are about £100 or less. This is something that Nintendo could achieve. To be honest its the only thing that comes to mind as a possibility for being a runaway hit that could sell 20 million easily in the first year. VR doesn't have to have state of the art graphics. The VR experience itself will add hugely to the playability. The feeling of immersion with VR is amazing and I'm quite happy with the VR world being a cartoon nintendo style world rather than a VR world with realistic graphics. 

Yes, there are £100 smartphones with 1080p displays, and the only good thing about those phones is the display, if at all.

And let's not take those 20 million NX sales that literally, shall we? After all, those numbers don't come from Nintendo, they are not official by any means and even if they were, Nintendo predicted that they would sell 5.5 mill Wii Us during its first fiscal year... and we know how that turned out.

Look, even I said (albeit as a joke) that NX would in fact be some kind of AR glasses, but Nintendo has been the most incredulous of all manufacturers about AR/VR. Whatever NX is, it won't be a VR device.



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