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AAA games are retail games Agree or disagree?

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Fuck you Bell. I'm gonna... 8 15.69%
 
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Bell_Cranel said:

Demon souls probably cost like 15 to 20 million.


Hah..I seriously doubt that. If Uncharted cost 20 I can see DS not making it past 10M



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I see that as budget thing, not retail. For example, Star Citizen is at around $85 millions at the moment, it will most likely break over 100 - they are still far from final release date, so we'll have to see what promises they keep, but calling that game anything but AAA is folly.



Roronaa_chan said:
Bell_Cranel said:

Demon souls probably cost like 15 to 20 million.


Hah..I seriously doubt that. If Uncharted cost 20 I can see DS not making it past 10M


Honestly, I'm pretty sure. I'm not she where you'd even getting this 20 million for uncharted either. Even if it was 20 million, think about the genre uncharted is compared to demon souls. They have to create more elements since demon souls is an rpg vs an adventure game.



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HoloDust said:
I see that as budget thing, not retail. For example, Star Citizen is at around $85 millions at the moment, it will most likely break over 100 - they are still far from final release date, so we'll have to see what promises they keep, but calling that game anything but AAA is folly.

Again, not talking about pc. Only consoles



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In my eyes, a AAA game is a game that gets a full $60 retail release, and was backed by a major publisher such as microsoft, Sony, EA, ubisoft, etc. So pretty close to your definition I suppose, but some retail games don't match the criteria.



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Bell_Cranel said:
Angelus said:

I highly doubt Demon Souls cost less than 10 million

And yes, I can say Tales of Vesperia is not AAA

Demon souls probably cost like 15 to 20 million. I'd still say that's AAA. Tales of vesperia had a big budget for a tales game considering they pulled budget away from tales off symphonia dawn of the new world.

I agree, Demon Souls is definitely AAA

Tales I'm pretty sure doesn't qualify 



Bell_Cranel said:
HoloDust said:
I see that as budget thing, not retail. For example, Star Citizen is at around $85 millions at the moment, it will most likely break over 100 - they are still far from final release date, so we'll have to see what promises they keep, but calling that game anything but AAA is folly.

Again, not talking about pc. Only consoles

Hm, don't really see you're making that disinction in your OP - so maybe you should, if you had that in mind.


Anyway, how about this then - both Risen 2 and Risen 3 are released in retail for consoles. Now, as someone who is PB fan and enjoyed them (though they are far from their best), I seriosuly doubt there is anyone out there that would call those games AAA - the budget is just simply not there.



Anything from a big publisher, with a big budget and passable production values (so no Minecraft) is can be marketed as AAA.

The Order and Ryse are unfortunately AAA, not very good ones, but still AAA.

You won't say Green Lantern is not a summer blockbuster, even it did flop.



Okay, for the millionth time on these forums, I'll explain what "AAA" actually means.

I used to own a video rental store. I would get pre-order catalogs from distribution companies for ALL games and movies with a planned release. The games section had "A", "AA", and "AAA" beside every single game being offered for pre-order.

Why?

Because the AAA system is an investment potential rating. It's a tool for retailers. It's the same as the way companies are rated AAA if they're really strong. A game like CoD would certainly have the AAA rating but I've also seen DS games given the AAA rating that are not big budget releases by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, it often corresponds with having a big budget for marketing and development but not always. It did NOT means "big budget"--that's just the meaning internet forum users have given it.

Now, is me explaining this going to do any good? Nuh uh. The meaning has been appropriated and changed into some kind of formless blob that most people think means "big budget" because someone else on the internet said it, making it an unbreakable truth.



No, although in this day and day age you're almost right since AA releases largely died last gen. AAA games are about the amount of money thrown at it, both production and marketings. Its nothing we know for sure but in many instances its something easily gauged.

Batman Arkham Knight: AAA
Lords of Fallen: AA

Its of course respective to the times and I guess the genre. Mario Galaxy would be consider a AAA for its its environment, so would the new Ratchet and Clank Remake.

AAA action game >>>> AAA platformer

Naturally the term has also evolved to reflect our expectations of games. So if a game is huge in scale, impressive in graphics and ambition we'd tend to note that as AAA as for the longest time such things are typically tied to budget, although thats not always the case. We also tend to class things with huge potential to sell as AAA, but again its like the summer blockbuster thing: movies of big budgets, fancy effects and big actors are likely to sell more tickets. The meaning of the word feels quite loaded at times but it all comes back down to budget and 9/10, I think people are getting it right.

Demon Souls: AA
Dark Souls 2: AAA (if not from production then from marketing)