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Gameboy Pocket is no more of an upgrade than PSTwo.

I guess you could argue GBC was, but then the core processor and basic architecture remained pretty much the same.

Something like 40m of the PS2 total is from PSTwos, so you could argue to not include that, same with DS Lite, GBA SP etc.

 

 

Personally, if I were Sony, I'd be dropping PS2 like a stone at the moment and pushing everything over to PS3. 



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SpaceJase said:
Both technically weak compared to their peers - esp. the original GB. It's not a fair comparison tbh as the GB series featured numerous significant upgrades whereas the PS2 always remained the same. You could easily argue that PS1 & 3 sales should be included in such a comparison.

You do realize that the PS2 went through about 15 revisions?

All Gameboy iterations do the same thing, play gameboy games. And the gameboy cannot play GBA games. So, a hardware revision is always counted.

superchunk, PCs aren't specifically designed to play games. They are all purpose machines, made by a whole lot of different companies. Not only that, you can upgrade a PC piece by piece. How often do you take apart your PS2 and put in a faster EE chip in it? And when's the last time you wrote a paper on your Gamecube? ;)



hound said:
So how long till the DS passes the PS2?

I really don't think it's out of the question that the DS starts selling a 30 million a year pace for the next few years. That would mean around 100 million DS's sold by mid 2009. Probably by then the DS will slow a bit, but there after it could still sell 15-20 million units a year, and assuming the PS2 ends around 130 million, by the end of 2010 the DS will be the best selling system of all time. The next true Nintendo handheld successor (no counting another remade DS which is possibly if not likely to happen) might not come untill 2011. Not only might the DS suprass the PS2, it may demolish it's record. Over 150 wouldn't be impossible.



ioi said:

Gameboy Pocket is no more of an upgrade than PSTwo.

I guess you could argue GBC was, but then the core processor and basic architecture remained pretty much the same.

Something like 40m of the PS2 total is from PSTwos, so you could argue to not include that, same with DS Lite, GBA SP etc.

 

 

Personally, if I were Sony, I'd be dropping PS2 like a stone at the moment and pushing everything over to PS3.


What you say is true, but a lot of people re-bought the gameboy when the pocket and color versions came out, so one person may have bought 3.  Of course, I bought 2 PS2s (but not PStwo), so I guess it evens out.

Also of note:  PSP passes the Gamecube and Xbox and looks to close in on the Genesis and N64 in the next 6 months.  I wonder if the PSP will reach SNES numbers (49.8 million).   The PSP will retire as at least the 8th best selling console ever.  Not too bad.



Dolla Dolla said:
SpaceJase said:
Both technically weak compared to their peers - esp. the original GB. It's not a fair comparison tbh as the GB series featured numerous significant upgrades whereas the PS2 always remained the same. You could easily argue that PS1 & 3 sales should be included in such a comparison.

You do realize that the PS2 went through about 15 revisions?

All Gameboy iterations do the same thing, play gameboy games. And the gameboy cannot play GBA games. So, a hardware revision is always counted.


PS2 revisions where superficial wheras the advance from GB to GB colour was significant. A slimline handheld will encourage people to re-buy but a slimline PS2 is irrelevant.

I take your point though. 



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PSP is actually doing decently well, although I think much past 35m is pushing things



Its a hardware upgrade if it takes entirely different games. Old giant brick Game Boys played Game Boy Color carts... Right? (The first GB I had was a Color, so I don't know.) But if it did, then it ought to be counted together. Regardless, PS2 is going to cruise past it, and then cruise past 130 million too. People keep underselling the PS2 by saying it will stop at 130 million. Look at how much PS shipped after PS2 launched! I'm thinking 135 million is the over/under, and 140 million is possible. Also of note, the PlayStation line has now shipped 250 million units! 251.27 to be exact. A quarter billion PlayStations since late in 1994! Pretty amazing.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

seems fair that the ps2 would be the best selling console of all time seeing as how many great games there were and everything.



its not even $99 yet, then there is 49.99 Ps2 still has a long life in it, freakish long.



PS2 will never hit $50, there's a lower limit to component prices especially when they start making less of them. I don't see PS2 going much below $100. PS2 will probably limp through 2008 but I don't see it selling through 2009 (ie, it will be doing current GameCube numbers).



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