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Mr.Playstation said:

Yesterday America finally made Same-sex marriage legal in all fifty states and hence removing power from the fourteen states which did not allow same-sex marriage.

 However it’s no secret that Same-Sex marriage was taboo and considered morally wrong just a couple of years/decades ago by many and any same-sex act was considered a “Sin” even by those that did not follow any religion. However nowadays this Taboo on Same-Sex marriage has been lifted and thanks to that certain people are now also advocating the legistlation of other practices/acts which up to now are generally considered Taboo. In order of popularity these include:

 1. Polygamy   

 2. Marijuana  ( Old source but many have brought this up on social media and Youtube )

 3. Prostitution

 4. Incest

 5. Pedophilia

 ( Not all of them have a source since they range from very wanted to much less wanted but all of them have been mentioned in social media and therefore there are minorities which do indeed want these practices/acts to be legalized )

 As a normal human being you are more than likely to find that at least one of these practices/acts go against your moral beliefs whether you believe in a religion or not. Therefore my questions are:

 1. Do you think that thanks to big steps taken to legalize practices which were previously Taboo, that the practices/acts mentioned above are much more likely to be legalized?

 2. Do you personally think that morally we as a society as from now onwards if we do legalize such acts, are heading in the wrong direction? Therefore do you want to see the acts mentioned above be legalized?


Where have you ever seen liberals trying to support/legalise pedophilia??

I'll answer both 1 and 2 toegther. Our society is moving in a direction where we make lawful decisions on actual morality looking at the effect on people, not just our personally feelings of what we like/don't or consider normal/not normal. That same ignorance is what caused people to reject the notion that the world was round. Its means analysing issues with actual evidence, it mean accepting differences in people and allowing them freedoms as long they don't entrench upon othe peoples,  freedom from abuse and harrasment. This is opposed to previous tendency which was to make decisions based on tradition, tradition often steming from baseless feelings, false logic and folklore. This is why interacial marriage was once illegal, it was just a dated token of the time, a result of peoples discrimination against those who were different and their desire to hold strong to that ignorance. Other taboos that existed; sex before marriage, contreception (aka safe sex), eating pork, wearing clothing made from 2 different kinds of frabic......

Now on to Pedophilia which is in no way comparable to the same sex relations. A child CANNOT be a consenting sexual partner, they are not of sexual or emotional maturity and thus it is morally wrong, akin to rape and harrasment. The pedophile will always be abusing their power, they are vastly different topics.

The truth is that the world has been moving in the same direction for the last few centuries and the overwhelming result is a better quality of living across the board, less murder, less outward discrimination, less rape, sexual harrasment and child abuse. Pedophillia was actually far more accepted in the past with women being wed to mature men from extremely young ages. So I'll ask you, do you think the world is moving in the wrong or right direction?

Specific to your questions; I'll say 2,3 need to be analysed in depth ( so I don't know). 1 and 4 should be legalised, incest should be allowed with 2 conscenting adults, its 100% happens regardless of whether its legal or not and is probably responsible for human survival. The only "moral" thing against it is that it gives children unfavourably higher chances of being born with deformaties, but that also applies to people of poor health and carriers of genetic disorders and we would never tell them they're not allowed to have kids. 5 should forever remain illegal, over time what is considered the age of conscent may change and adjust though. 



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Children and animals cannot consent. We're not heading down a road of paedophillia and beastiality.

I have no problem with Polygamy adults can have whatever arrangement they so please as long as everyone consents. Incest is a genetic issue and can affect the health of children, if they'll infertile then who the fuck cares.



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Mr.Playstation said:
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Is this a serious thread?


Honestly I always image that 70 years ago, if the intenet existed  and the question "Should Blacks be given the same rights?" was asked, the answer you have just given would be the answer someone beck then would have given.


You're comparing equal rights with incest and podophilia 

that's a joke. 



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ps3-sales! said:
Mr.Playstation said:


Honestly I always image that 70 years ago, if the intenet existed  and the question "Should Blacks be given the same rights?" was asked, the answer you have just given would be the answer someone beck then would have given.


You're comparing equal rights with incest and podophilia 

that's a joke. 

No, it isn't . These 5 things are what people want from a very open-minded society ( That is after all what we are striving for ). The first three have been very hotly discussed, after yesterday, and considered the next step as what should be legalized next. The other two have been discussed less ,much less, but  nonetheless people are still mentioning both as practices which can be possibly legalized. 

 

I'm not comparing equal rights with incest or pedophilia the only thing comparable between these three is that at the time they were considered to be very liberal points of discussion and only the open minded really supported equal rights back then. 

In fact non of the five above should be compared to same-sex marriage but rather the thing which is equel in both Same-sex marriage and the above five points is that they were/are considered as practices which society was/is not ready to accept.



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Next thing you know, animal molesting will be legal in a couple decades max.



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Don't make anything harmful legal, everything else is fine if adults are doing it responsibly.

I'm not very open minded, but I can respect other people's choices and lifestyles as long my lifestyle isn't creating conflict with "theirs".



cheshirescat said:
Well it seems more or less unanimous that people are against pedophilia (outside of the rare "well as long as they don't act on it" semantic argument), but can we all agree that the age of consent should get knocked down a bit in most places?

I think 16 is honestly old enough to consent. If you're old enough to drive around a ton of steel capable of liquifying a person depending on the circumstance, you're old enough to decide what you do with your genitalia. 



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Kuksenkov said:
Don't make anything harmful legal, everything else is fine if adults are doing it responsibly.

I'm not very open minded, but I can respect other people's choices and lifestyles as long my lifestyle isn't creating conflict with "theirs".

I say make all drugs legal and let social Darwinism weed out the idiots. 



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5 should not be in the OP, because all the others involve consenting adults, while this one don't. And it's somehow offensive and worrisome that you believe equal rights and pedophilia are related in any way.

 

About the others 1-3 should be OK. I don't think polygamy would be popular, and there are some law issues (in some countrys the spouse gets benefits in tax, medcare and others), but it should be OK.

 

Incest could be OK, as long all involved are adults, but you have the problem of genetic problems in children. Don't think it will ever be legal though.



This is an interesting question. I look at incest and pedophilia as objectionable, but if you really think about it in the same way as you would homosexuality, as long as no one is being hurt, shouldn't it be okay?

Will there be a huge cultural revolution in 20 years about incest equality. In 60 years for age equality? Will I be on the dark side of history for these, being looked at as a bigot? Who knows.