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rocketpig on 14 March 2008

I think everything that isn't mind-bendingly addictive should be legal.

Personally, I hate pot. It makes me crazy, especially the good shit we get here in SoCal. I turn into a nutjob whenever I smoke it so I stopped smoking a few years back (never smoked much in the first place).

Give me a good ol' fat rail any day of the week. Yar!




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iron_megalith on 14 March 2008
schattenwolf86 said:
Euphoria14 said:

Though there is some concern about long term effects of smoke in general, marijuana as such is non-toxic and it does not harm the brain, liver or other organs. None of the risks associated with smoking (primarily bronchitis) apply to marijuana consumed in food (e.g. cookies, tea).

There is no known case of a single person ever dying from an overdose of marijuana. It is safer to take too much marijuana than too much aspirin, a common over-the-counter medicine. 50 doses of aspirin are lethal, but it takes an estimated 40,000 doses of marijuana.

Studies are showing that THC can create schizophrenia like symptons in people, so I think it does affect peoples mind. Also, I disagree with people who say it is not addictive. I agree that it's not a physical addiction, but more of a mental addiction. I say people get mentally addicted to it is because they have nothing else to. I guess you could say it just becomes a hobby.

Should recreational pot be illegal? I think so. I've seen people who when they smoke alot, all they do is sit in basements and do literally nothing for a whole afternoon. There's plenty of arguements of why it should be legalized...I can't really coment on those because they are convincing arguements...lol.

Also, with all the money spent on the so called war on drugs, people say just legalize it and control it, so the war on drugs wouldn't be as a huge financial drain. Okay, so pot is legalized, controlled, taxed, now what? Drug dealers will find something else, probably create a concotion of something really dangerous and play the exact same game all over. It will always be a never ending cycle there.


 Absolutely right. This is just one of the most saddest drama in this world. It's already gone deep down to the roots. So the only thing I can do is not to be a part of that cycle.



Thatmax on 14 March 2008

The only wory for me about legalized weed is that the small time dealers would lose their extra income and my mov onto harder drugs, theres allot of competition between dealers in south London, in my film studies class there are 2 dealers out of 20 people or so.



jake_the_fake1 on 14 March 2008
SeriousWB said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
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Garcian Smith said:
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ElRhodeo said:
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if your stoned, and driving a car, the likely hood of you crashing is high, it's like alcohol, while it may not kill you it's self, it robs you of the sense's and brain power to not do stupid life threatening things, and it's these thing that can not only kill you but kill others.

As for not hurting others, well that's a lode of bull, how about hurting family and loved one?

 

If it is so similar to alcohol in your opinion, why aren't you trying to get all alcohol made illegal?

 



marijuana is illegal while alcohol isn't, and  any case my 1st post wasn't about legalising it or making things illegal but about the punishments that should be dealt to those that broke the laws in regards to illegal drugs use.



Daddo Splat on 14 March 2008
Euphoria14 said:
Daddo Splat said:
mr-money said:
OK, let me break this down to you really, really simply.

Marijuana is not damaging to your health. It is the opposite. Marijuana is not addictive. It is the opposite.

Marijuana's previous name was hemp. It used to be illegal for farmers NOT to grow it. It was used for oil, textiles, food, drugs, and a replacement for tobacco.

It was rebranded "marijuana" and made to look dangerous by the media, so that the oil, drug and tobacco companies could profit immensely.

I advise everyone here to push for marijuana legalisation in your own state. Marijuana is great, although I have not personally smoked it, because I'm not into that stuff. I'd rather be fully conscious and aware. I'm not that insecure, although I guess it would be fun to try it.

Iam guessing when you say not addictitive you mean no withdrawl symptoms?? becaus people have addictive style personalities and chase the feeling they get when High! So maybe its not as hard as alchohol or nicoteen to get off of but people  can and do abuse it!

Also its can make some people paranoid! Iam not saying its any worse then alchohol ! But its all about escape and when your loaded everything seams so funny! and hat about the munchies are we not already to fat here in America!


 Nice try there. If Cannibus was the cause of obesity, explain whythat was not a problem in other countries where they were smoking cannibus for centuries.

 

Just another excuse if you ask me. Like when McDonald's blamed Games for obesity a couple months ago. 

Maybe we should look into the real problems. Like fastfood, alcohol, cigarette companies adding addictive chemicals, etc... instead of something that has not been a problem since... well...  ever.


thats cause they were munching on carrots not chips and if it was indacot the super bud they would never get up I remember 1 time I hit my bong with some 1 hit shit! and damn I was gonzoed so I packed that bong one more time for another rip! and I fell straight on my ass it felt like I landed on an electric socket and I was on the ground for a while I dropped by trusty bong but it survived. so after getting back up I packed that bad boy for another rip and in typical spicolly fashion I said Iam SOOOOOOO WASTED!



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Thatmax on 14 March 2008
jake_the_fake1 said:
Thatmax said:
Im guessing you have never tied it Jake? take a couple a tokes and then see if u wanna preach to us! :)

 Why suggest such a retarded thing? o.0


 Im suggesting this because you are knocking something you have never tried before, you are saying that you are endangering lives by smoking weed, you are taking the stereotypical stoned guy who doesnt know what the hell is going on and believing that its always like that, its not like alcohol, you still feel in control, your mind doesnt start telling you to go and drive cars, you still know whats a bad idea etc.

And even though i dont approve of stoned driving a test on this tv programme showed that on average youare a more careful driver when stoned, this is because they are more attentive and kind of paranoid about crashing etc.



jake_the_fake1 on 14 March 2008
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Garcian Smith said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
ElRhodeo said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
all drug users and traficers should be the punishemnt of amputation or death respectfully, no questions asked, people just have to learn, simply as that. :)

What is wrong with you? It wasn't funny the first time, much less when you repeat it.

 

 

 


Nothing is wrong with me, I just think it's time for some hard action to be put in place because clearly having a soft hand as we have now get's us no where, simple as that.


Because clearly the answer to stem the tide of nonviolent, victimless crimes is amputation or the death penalty. Let me guess: Next you're going to say that you would shoot them yourself, but you won't because [insert excuse here]. Thank you, Internet Tough Guy jake_the_fake1, you are clearly the last true hero in this world.


some times a few have to be sacrificed for the greater good, they are casualties of war. What war, I hear you say, it's the war against drugs my simple minded friend.

Now the reason I choose such a radical solution was because the current way of dealing with this problem simply isn't working, it's just a slap on the risk and that's it, if you really want to stop it then drastic measures have to be implemented, it's really as simply as that. Now the only people agains't this are clearly the same people doing drugs so it's natural for them to be defensive, but hey it's tough love and heaven knows we need it, and we need it now.


Only thing you forget it that people know damn well what they are doing when they do it. Nobody puts a gun to someones head and says "Smoke this and/or drink this or we will kill you".

You are more like "Smoke this and/or drink this and I will kill you".

The way I see it, you are worse than they are.

Man is the measure of all things, who is anyone to tell me what I can or can't do with MY BODY.


interesting you say this, cause we sure stop those that love to cut them selvs, but hey like you said it's their body and they can do what they like to it.

Now the question is, should tax payers money be spent trying to help these people once they've gone over board to the point of killing them selvs?

I say no, they should just be left to die, they decided to do it knowing what could happen, so they should be left to bear the brunt of their decision, after all it's their body and they can do what they like with it.


According to many religions, killing yourself is wrong. I do not say it is right, but I have no control over that.

Difference here is that Marijuana does not kill you nor does you doing the drug hurt anyone else.


if your stoned, and driving a car, the likely hood of you crashing is high, it's like alcohol, while it may not kill you it's self, it robs you of the sense's and brain power to not do stupid life threatening things, and it's these thing that can not only kill you but kill others.

As for not hurting others, well that's a lode of bull, how about hurting family and loved one?


Big difference my friend.

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Read that too.

Then realize that as I said. I only smoke inside my own home. Never going on in public, although Marijuana makes you drive slower. Alcohol makes you feel more "invinclible" if you will, thus making peple drive faster. Plus the fact that personality wise, there is almost no change when stoned compared to drunk.

Big difference.

Also, Alcohol does kill you.

Also, Marijuana enhances your senses, not robs them.

Before trying to bash something you do not understand, try reading up.


 that and your link made me LOLz.

I've seen many stoners from high school do some dumb shit, non of them looked like they had a brain in them when they were stoned, enhances your senses my ass, but hey if you want to belive then go right ahead, it's a free world out there to belive what you want. 



Daddo Splat on 14 March 2008

Some of that was meant for comical purposes not grinding on the mindless pothead! and it is truly first hand experience! from a second generation burner!



Euphoria14 on 14 March 2008

^^ So anyone who smokes, drinks, etc... should be put away for life and/or killed because they "can possibly" hurt someone else?

Stupidity hurts the World too. Let us put them away. This World would suck if we punished based on speculation alone. X guy can be hurt of killed because Y guy smokes marijuana in his own home. Good enough... LOCK HIM UP!!!

Now guns kill people too, illegalize them. Fast food leads to obesity which can lead to serious health issues and kill someone. Illegalize it. Did you know that if you are doctor prescribed Vicoden (which you can take at the job if prescribed) ca alter your judgment too? That is it, lock up the whole pharmaceudical industry.

People are punished when they do wrong, although what am I doing wrong?

You really do not understand what you are saying. Please read up.

Your sense of justice fails.

 Just remember what the US does... then remember what the crime rate is compared to the rest of the World.



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Thatmax on 14 March 2008
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Garcian Smith said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
ElRhodeo said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
all drug users and traficers should be the punishemnt of amputation or death respectfully, no questions asked, people just have to learn, simply as that. :)

What is wrong with you? It wasn't funny the first time, much less when you repeat it.

 

 

 


Nothing is wrong with me, I just think it's time for some hard action to be put in place because clearly having a soft hand as we have now get's us no where, simple as that.


Because clearly the answer to stem the tide of nonviolent, victimless crimes is amputation or the death penalty. Let me guess: Next you're going to say that you would shoot them yourself, but you won't because [insert excuse here]. Thank you, Internet Tough Guy jake_the_fake1, you are clearly the last true hero in this world.


some times a few have to be sacrificed for the greater good, they are casualties of war. What war, I hear you say, it's the war against drugs my simple minded friend.

Now the reason I choose such a radical solution was because the current way of dealing with this problem simply isn't working, it's just a slap on the risk and that's it, if you really want to stop it then drastic measures have to be implemented, it's really as simply as that. Now the only people agains't this are clearly the same people doing drugs so it's natural for them to be defensive, but hey it's tough love and heaven knows we need it, and we need it now.


Only thing you forget it that people know damn well what they are doing when they do it. Nobody puts a gun to someones head and says "Smoke this and/or drink this or we will kill you".

You are more like "Smoke this and/or drink this and I will kill you".

The way I see it, you are worse than they are.

Man is the measure of all things, who is anyone to tell me what I can or can't do with MY BODY.


interesting you say this, cause we sure stop those that love to cut them selvs, but hey like you said it's their body and they can do what they like to it.

Now the question is, should tax payers money be spent trying to help these people once they've gone over board to the point of killing them selvs?

I say no, they should just be left to die, they decided to do it knowing what could happen, so they should be left to bear the brunt of their decision, after all it's their body and they can do what they like with it.


According to many religions, killing yourself is wrong. I do not say it is right, but I have no control over that.

Difference here is that Marijuana does not kill you nor does you doing the drug hurt anyone else.


if your stoned, and driving a car, the likely hood of you crashing is high, it's like alcohol, while it may not kill you it's self, it robs you of the sense's and brain power to not do stupid life threatening things, and it's these thing that can not only kill you but kill others.

As for not hurting others, well that's a lode of bull, how about hurting family and loved one?


Big difference my friend.

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Read that too.

Then realize that as I said. I only smoke inside my own home. Never going on in public, although Marijuana makes you drive slower. Alcohol makes you feel more "invinclible" if you will, thus making peple drive faster. Plus the fact that personality wise, there is almost no change when stoned compared to drunk.

Big difference.

Also, Alcohol does kill you.

Also, Marijuana enhances your senses, not robs them.

Before trying to bash something you do not understand, try reading up.


 that and your link made me LOLz.

I've seen many stoners from high school do some dumb shit, non of them looked like they had a brain in them when they were stoned, enhances your senses my ass, but hey if you want to belive then go right ahead, it's a free world out there to belive what you want. 


 Your senses are pretty much ehanced when stned, and dont try to say they are not, there is scientific proof, and seeing as you have never smoked i dont see how you would know better, the reason for it is because you are very much focused on the mind, so its as if you are concentrating on them allot more.