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GoOnKid said:

So what's better, Metroid 1 on the NES or Metroid 2 on the Gameboy?

Just do yourself a favor and play the remakes :P

The remakes are far better, that's true lol.

However, I feel like both of these old, archaic, cryptic and slow games have a lot of mojo in them, and while both have strengths and weaknesses, I really do like both. They have a place in my heart and I will keep playing them every now and then. The first one is still cool to this day, even though half of Norfair and Brinstar look the same, but the kick-ass music alone makes me want to hop in once again. The first few times I played it I got lost so bad, obviously, and this is heavily annoying and frustrating, but once I managed to make my way through Zebes, it was awesome. Especially when you have a couple of energy tanks and missiles it gets a lot easier. The second game is nice as well, I remember playing it during long car rides. Hunting down one metroid after another is amazing and quite scary with this creepy atmosphere and music. I got lost here, too. Of course. But after several attempts I reached the metroid queen and the battle was immensely intense. Plus, it introduced the coolest upgrade ever, which of course is the Spider Ball.

Metroid: Zero Mission was a huge step upwards and is indeed superior in every way to the original, there's no doubt about that. Not much else to say other than it's a fantastic game even to this day. Metroid: Samus Returns is a pretty good, too. But what bothered me a bit is that it relied too much on that counter attack move during battles. Almost every single enemy must be defeated in the same pattern: let it approch and attack you, then counter and shoot. This gets old after a while.

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Also, the inclusion of Ridley as the final boss felt out of place to me. He doesn't need to be in every single game. It felt like too much obvious fan service shoved down the throat. I would have preferred if the queen was the final boss and that's it.


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Proxy-Pie said:

Well, this thread died out (my fault for not maintaining it lol), but if people want to bring it back, I'd be happy to! ^^

Probably a good time to bring it back since it seems likely we will get one of the following this year:

Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster/remake (Very likely)

Metroid 5 (possible)

Metroid Prime 4 (unlikely)

I would welcome all of those. It's about time, we need more Metroid.



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Ive really enjoyed all the 3d metroids. Even other m. Ive never really been into 2d metroid tho . Which is nuts considering I love retro metroidvania games like xeodrifter and the blaster master remakes. May try super metroid again after I finish last of us 2.



Ooooh, u know I doubt theyd do it but a metoid 2d collection would be cool. Especially a physical run. Thatd be good motivation 4 me to give 2d another go



CarcharodonKraz said:
Ive really enjoyed all the 3d metroids. Even other m. Ive never really been into 2d metroid tho . Which is nuts considering I love retro metroidvania games like xeodrifter and the blaster master remakes. May try super metroid again after I finish last of us 2.

High five, me too.

I hope you'll be able to sink into Super Metroid, it's my favorite game ever. How far have you been?



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CarcharodonKraz said:
Ive really enjoyed all the 3d metroids. Even other m. Ive never really been into 2d metroid tho . Which is nuts considering I love retro metroidvania games like xeodrifter and the blaster master remakes. May try super metroid again after I finish last of us 2.

I recommend you start with Zero Mission and work your way up from there. Super is the best game for sure, but it's nice to play the story chronologically. Not like story matters too much in Metroid, but still, I do think it's nicer that way.

That said, for as much as everyone recommends the remakes, I do think the originals are more... "true". Like, the whole extra chapter thing at the end of Zero Mission, and all the little details (and some not so little) that were changed in Samus Returns, I can't see these games as canon. They're much improved versions of old games, but the new changes just don't feel like part of the story to me. For that reason I really didn't mind the ending change in Samus Returns, as I thought it was pretty awesome gameplay-wise. Also it was just so obviously gonna happen, I was already emotionally prepared for it.

That said, if you want a more true-to-the-original remake of Metroid 2, there's always AM2R, the PC fan remake of it. It's a really great game, too, and it's much closer to the source material than Samus Returns is.

So I'd recommend you play Zero Mission, then AM2R, then Super Metroid, then Fusion.



mZuzek said:

So I'd recommend you play Zero Mission, then AM2R, then Super Metroid, then Fusion.

I'm gonna disagree with this. I've always felt that Super's gameplay feels too floaty and clunky compared to the other 2D games, and I can barely play it anymore because of that haha.

On another note, if we're bringing this thread back, I'll have to bring it up to date! I have some a few exams in the coming weeks, but I'll get to it ASAP after! :)

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mZuzek said:

So I'd recommend you play Zero Mission, then AM2R, then Super Metroid, then Fusion.

I'm gonna disagree with this. I've always felt that Super's gameplay feels too floaty and clunky compared to the other 2D games, and I can barely play it anymore because of that haha.

Its floatiness definitely sets it apart from the other 2D games, but it doesn't make the game worse. Sure it makes it strange to play when you've played the other ones recently, I guess.



If you want to play the originals, unless you really really WANT that feeling of being lost, I would say bring a map. Up until Super, the 2D games were still evolving drastically between iterations. A lot of series and genre staples didn't exist before Super. Super is where things really fell into place.

This thread reminds me that I do still need to play AM2R.



mZuzek said:
CarcharodonKraz said:
Ive really enjoyed all the 3d metroids. Even other m. Ive never really been into 2d metroid tho . Which is nuts considering I love retro metroidvania games like xeodrifter and the blaster master remakes. May try super metroid again after I finish last of us 2.

I recommend you start with Zero Mission and work your way up from there. Super is the best game for sure, but it's nice to play the story chronologically. Not like story matters too much in Metroid, but still, I do think it's nicer that way.

That said, for as much as everyone recommends the remakes, I do think the originals are more... "true". Like, the whole extra chapter thing at the end of Zero Mission, and all the little details (and some not so little) that were changed in Samus Returns, I can't see these games as canon. They're much improved versions of old games, but the new changes just don't feel like part of the story to me. For that reason I really didn't mind the ending change in Samus Returns, as I thought it was pretty awesome gameplay-wise. Also it was just so obviously gonna happen, I was already emotionally prepared for it.

That said, if you want a more true-to-the-original remake of Metroid 2, there's always AM2R, the PC fan remake of it. It's a really great game, too, and it's much closer to the source material than Samus Returns is.

So I'd recommend you play Zero Mission, then AM2R, then Super Metroid, then Fusion.

Thanks for the recommendation, but I dont think most of those games can be played on a tv screen. I dont like handhelds. I already own super on the classic.  I do really wish 10do would drop a 2d collection cart for switch.