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S.T.A.G.E. said:
What is it about Lara croft that always makes her forget shes injured? First game "oh a rusty bar went through my side, probably skewered one of my kidney's but im fine." Now she looks like she got a fractured arm in the cinematics and instantly shes able to fix it with health. LOL....Crystal Dynamics have a lot to learn about suspension of disbelief. They need to play the Last of Us and copy that formula. This game requires suspension of disbelief.

Outside of that, this game looks quite fun. Just one of my major hang ups i've had with the reboot of this franchise. Again...still cant wait for this Halo 5 and Gears.


When a game does that and you notice, it's because you're sucked in to almost forgetting it's a game and judging it by real world rules.  I guess that's a compliment.  A game like MGS3 where Snake is thrown off of a bridge, shot in the eye, shot in the leg, and has his arm broken by the Boss--you don't hold it to the same standard.  Same for Uncharted 2 where Nate is shot and can still fend off 50 bad guys and climb a train hanging off of a cliff.  In games like that, you're able to suspend disbelief.

 

I guess Tomb Raider is somewhere between ultra gritty like TLoU and Hollywood blockbuster like Uncharted.  I'm okay with that.

 

*edit* when I say "you" I don't mean "YOU". I mean " the audience "



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d21lewis said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
What is it about Lara croft that always makes her forget shes injured? First game "oh a rusty bar went through my side, probably skewered one of my kidney's but im fine." Now she looks like she got a fractured arm in the cinematics and instantly shes able to fix it with health. LOL....Crystal Dynamics have a lot to learn about suspension of disbelief. They need to play the Last of Us and copy that formula. This game requires suspension of disbelief.

Outside of that, this game looks quite fun. Just one of my major hang ups i've had with the reboot of this franchise. Again...still cant wait for this Halo 5 and Gears.


When a game does that and you notice, it's because you're sucked in to almost forgetting it's a game and judging it by real world rules.  I guess that's a compliment.  A game like MGS3 where Snake is thrown off of a bridge, shot in the eye, shot in the leg, and has his arm broken by the Boss--you don't hold it to the same standard.  Same for Uncharted 2 where Nate is shot and can still fend off 50 bad guys and climb a train hanging off of a cliff.  In games like that, you're able to suspend disbelief.

 

I guess Tomb Raider is somewhere between ultra gritty like TLoU and Hollywood blockbuster like Uncharted.  I'm okay with that.

 

*edit* when I say "you" I don't mean "YOU". I mean " the audience "


True. In the Last of Us even though we got a great amount of gameplay to bolster the entertainment value the major injuries in the game was also apart of the story. This gave room to leave ellie on her own and to turn into the hero we always knew she could be. In Tomb Raider...it seems like she was Rambo with a mix of pain killers the whole game just to survive the whole ordeal like Max Payne. LOL



S.T.A.G.E. said:
d21lewis said:


When a game does that and you notice, it's because you're sucked in to almost forgetting it's a game and judging it by real world rules.  I guess that's a compliment.  A game like MGS3 where Snake is thrown off of a bridge, shot in the eye, shot in the leg, and has his arm broken by the Boss--you don't hold it to the same standard.  Same for Uncharted 2 where Nate is shot and can still fend off 50 bad guys and climb a train hanging off of a cliff.  In games like that, you're able to suspend disbelief.

 

I guess Tomb Raider is somewhere between ultra gritty like TLoU and Hollywood blockbuster like Uncharted.  I'm okay with that.

 

*edit* when I say "you" I don't mean "YOU". I mean " the audience "


True. In the Last of Us even though we got a great amount of gameplay to bolster the entertainment value the major injuries in the game was also apart of the story. This gave room to leave ellie on her own and to turn into the hero we always knew she could be. In Tomb Raider...it seems like she was Rambo with a mix of pain killers the whole game just to survive the whole ordeal like Max Payne. LOL

Look at the gameplay demo for Uncharted 4 that was shown at E3, Drake basically runs into a room and gets shot (grazed?) and punched in the gut and it doesn't appear to even affect him.  Later on he's shown swinging out of a moving vehicle and hits something.  To be fair he may have to take 1 second to shrug off the last part but it is still pretty jarring.



Vasto said:
GOTY


QFT...  I'm buying a Xbox One for this game.



amazing.... can't wait for the pc version :p



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Legend11 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


True. In the Last of Us even though we got a great amount of gameplay to bolster the entertainment value the major injuries in the game was also apart of the story. This gave room to leave ellie on her own and to turn into the hero we always knew she could be. In Tomb Raider...it seems like she was Rambo with a mix of pain killers the whole game just to survive the whole ordeal like Max Payne. LOL

Look at the gameplay demo for Uncharted 4 that was shown at E3, Drake basically runs into a room and gets shot (grazed?) and punched in the gut and it doesn't appear to even affect him.  Later on he's shown swinging out of a moving vehicle and hits something.  To be fair he may have to take 1 second to shrug off the last part but it is still pretty jarring.


Are you talking about the video Sony showed?



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Legend11 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


True. In the Last of Us even though we got a great amount of gameplay to bolster the entertainment value the major injuries in the game was also apart of the story. This gave room to leave ellie on her own and to turn into the hero we always knew she could be. In Tomb Raider...it seems like she was Rambo with a mix of pain killers the whole game just to survive the whole ordeal like Max Payne. LOL

Look at the gameplay demo for Uncharted 4 that was shown at E3, Drake basically runs into a room and gets shot (grazed?) and punched in the gut and it doesn't appear to even affect him.  Later on he's shown swinging out of a moving vehicle and hits something.  To be fair he may have to take 1 second to shrug off the last part but it is still pretty jarring.


Are you talking about the video Sony showed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL46dpNEPPA

At 3:00 (F*ck cover)
At 7:13 (Hmm... I wonder what I'm going to have tonight for supper... Did I just hit something on my right side?  I guess not everything feels fine.)



I like how all the comments on the video are "poor man's Uncharted, I'll pass"
Youtube comments, ladies and gentlemen.

Now, the game looks fucking awesome. I loved the 2013 reboot, and this looks just as good.
I'll definitely play it.



Legend11 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Are you talking about the video Sony showed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL46dpNEPPA

At 3:00 (F*ck cover)
At 7:13 (Hmm... I wonder what I'm going to have tonight for supper... Did I just hit something on my right side?  I guess not everything feels fine.)

Sorry for the quote tree. I'm in a rush!

 

But I think most of the stuff we mentioned were part of the story, not gameplay.  Getting shot in gameplay isn't the same as getting shot in a cutscene.  Cutscenes are "cannon".  We don't know what happens at the end of that UC4 video because it cuts off.  For all we know, Nate dies and we play as Raiden for the rest of the game.



shikamaru317 said:

I'm not sure why they showed a linear ice climbing section of the game on stage at E3 instead of one of the more interesting combat sections from this demo. Kind of dumb choice on their part. Looks great though, one of my top 5 most wanted games this Holiday season.

I would love to know who was in choice of picking the gameplay demos shown on stage. Feels like wrong decisions were made with this, possibly Halo and Gears. (Gears probably more to do with how little they could show at this stage in develoment). I knew after they showed this and when I read the IGN article about what they had seen that it was a terrible choice for what to show at E3.