Rafie said:

That's an ignorant assumption to think I'm new to gaming. I've been gaming since '85. I'd hardly call that new. That's all I have to say on this part seeing as everything else you said is just irrelevant filler.

i didn't assum it,was just saying thats the way you are talking

also playing since 1985 actually doesn't mean much as i have seen plenty who who games but don't follow gaming or are just fans of PC,NINTENDO or SONY or SEGA

Again, ignorant to say that.  Also you named some games that aren't even released yet. We haven't played them. In my opinion, The Order graphically looks better than Shadowfall, Driveclub, definitely FF15, InFamous, AND Tomb Raider.

TOMB RAIDER looks pretty close and HORIZON outright looks better and with GUERILLA GAMES reputation,will be better.

you don't need the game to release to say that.

Order might look better than SHADOWFALL as its released later but it doesn't come anywhere near DRIVECLUB.DRIVECLUB is the best looking game on any console or platform but its expected as its a racing game

and FINAL FNATASY 1,we will have to see.the game looks pretty great but is japanese and square enix art style,also an rpg and not open world

No I would never say it looks bad. If a game looks good...then it looks good. Sunset Overdrive look gorgeous. Just because it's not graphically better than Uncharted 4 doesn't mean Sunset Overdrive looks bad. You might want to find more suitable words to get your points across. I know the meaning of expectation. You obviously have a different interpretation.

Dude you should stop trying to debate. You CLEARLY miss the points that I've made. I certainly don't have to improve on how I explain things. Never had a problem with that or others having a problem with it. You're the only one thus far. That speaks volumes about comprehension on your part. You should read my post again so that you'll get where I'm coming from. I won't insult your intelligence as you've tried to with me.

you are also the only user i have met that debates outright foolishly,that also speaks comprehension abt your past

and actually we don't need to ask others or even compare.if i debated and compared like you,i wud be ashamed of myself and wud really change myself cause i wud think there is something wrong with me.

i never insulted your intelligence but more of your sense but even there the way you are talking and comparing,it seemed like there was none

Who sounds like a kid now? "I can use whatever I want!!"

that has nothing to do with being a kid but being an ADULT,thats why you have rights after 18 and 21

Again, you just tried to insult me again. "HOW OLD ARE YOU" and all that other jazz is uncalled for.

after the way you were talking and getting hurt as sarcasm and pity small jokes,what else am i supposed to say

i feel tired talking to you as you just don't seem to get the sense of what other person is saying and get hurt by tiny things which are part of a normal debate

Oh and you contradicted yourself. By trying to prove a point to me by putting the definition of "bad" there, you shot yourself in the foot by claiming your own interpretation of it.

my interpretation was as the dictionary said and people can use words as slang or in context and in many regions or era's,different words can mean anything

fuck - used to be a dirty word,today its common as kids use it

See the second statement of this very post. You're very defensive. I can see I backed you into a corner.

i never got defensive,just trying to get the point across

You're making little sense and is trying to argue a point, but it's not hitting home with me because you're not getting it. The bolded there shows me that you still don't get it.

its not about me getting it but you trying to make your own idea when the other person clarifies

 In other words from that bolded there, you basically said just because one game is bad doesn't mean I stop playing games. If you don't get that, then I would suggest you stop debating this. That is not what we're discussing/debating about.

yes we were,if a fruit or dish taste stinks.i probably never touch it again

I'm not generalizing an entire hobby and or food as you've just done. We're talking about one aspect of a game. The graphics. You said the graphics of Uncharted 4 is bad. I said it's not, because it really isn't.

well thats your opinion and opinion don't need to match

Look at your thread again and see the consenus here. Most disagree with you.

actually close to half the people in the forums actually said UNCHARTED was good looking but no the best

and jsut because people agree doesn't make it true.MOST poor people agree with SOCIALISM or MOST CASUAL gamer agreed that Wii would beat PS2 or PLAYSTATION wud never again lead,doesn't make it true

I'm not even arguing about Uncharted 4 the game, it's just the graphics.

well if you are not talking about UNCHARTED 4 and its gameplay and physics then its even worse

as UNCHARTED gameplay and physics and story add alot to the realistic feel of the game

UNCHARTED graphics itself according to NAUGHTY DOG and UNCHARTED series standards and expectation look clearly bad and under-par

So where did you get that "I own Sony and I'm sensitivie" b.s from? I reiterate, you've missed the point again and have gone off the deep end. A discussion has turned into an argument. One you're losing btw.

I was trying to make a relation that if you owned SONY then no matter what as company reps do,defend SONY and its products and say its the best in the world

and you are completly sensitive

a discussion turned into argument the time you started your first opinion as they are outright stupid

and if you are even thinking about winning or losing,its again stupid as it shows your maturity

what are you the Russian GULAG Police?

well if you think so and u don't like a game then you use ur choice of words,stop dictating others

Bolded #1- Relevance?

well ur old school english teacher saying this is what a word means andalso telling people to use perfectly correct sentencing

stop dictating others

Bolded #2- I don't dictate. Where have you seen me do that? I challenged your stance on a word you used the incorrect context on. Simple as that.

no you were outright dictating others what and how they should use words

really i would be ashamed to behave the way you are behaving?

Bolded #3- How am I behaving? I'm good here. You're the defensive one getting upset.

no you aren't,as you behve like a nerdy book worm kid(not calling you but relating) in school everybody hates

and i may be defensive or agrresive,that upto me

I've explained to you why I was asking you about why you chose to say the graphics were bad. You turned this into an argument. Then you went on to try to belittle me by taking jabs at my intelligence and saying I must be new to gaming and such. Even if I was new to gaming, my point still stands.

i reply to you in my first reply and in OP,nowhere did i turn it into an argument.i pretty clearly clarified it

i actually was joking and using sarcasm not even serious

but after port after post when you behave like that,what do you expect from other,to love you?...........lol

i never said you are new to gaming just that you sound like

and if you were new to gaming,ur point doest stand either way and if you were new to gaming then you wud have nowhere the right to compare and defend as you wud have no idea not just abt graphics but about gaming history and expectations

Self obsessed? Hehehe You're using words in the wrong context once again. I always get other's points when it's expressed in a comprehensible manner. Now have a good day.