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Will NX be a success?

Yes 40 18.78%
 
Nope 62 29.11%
 
Too early to tell 100 46.95%
 
Whats a NX? 11 5.16%
 
Total:213
curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

Assassin's Creed 3

Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge

Arkham City

Lego Batman 2

Skylanders: Giants

Just Dance 4

Darksiders 2

Mass Effect 3

Tekken Tag 2

007 Legends

Transformers Prime

Need for Speed: Most Wanted

Amazing Spider Man

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Resident Evil Revelations

Injustice

the Walking Dead

Rayman Legends

Splinter Cell: Blacklist

Disney Infinity

Skylanders: Swap Force

Call of Duty: Ghosts

Arkham Origins

Lego Marvel Super Heroes

Pac-Man Ghostly Adventures

Sonic Lost World

Assassin's Creed 4

Just Dance 2014

Amazing Spider Man 2

Lego Hobbit

Lego Movie

Transformers Dark Spark

Disney Planes

How to Train ur Dragon 2

Skylanders: Trap Team

Disney Infinity 2.0

Sonic Boom

Lego Batman 3

Just Dance 2015

Pac-Man Ghostly Adventures 2

Skylanders: Supercharged

Lego Jurassic World

Disney Infinity 3.0

Lego Dimensions

Guitar Hero Live

Lego Avengers

Just Dance 2016

Along with dozens of indie titles GameCube didn't get. Basically the only problem is price/power ratio.

Almost all that third party support was in 2012 and 2013 though. From 2014 on, nada.


Just like GameCube which outside of Resident Evil 4 was pretty much just licensed titles and a few annual franchises post-2003?



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Almost all that third party support was in 2012 and 2013 though. From 2014 on, nada.

Just like GameCube which outside of Resident Evil 4 was pretty much just licensed titles and a few annual franchises post-2003?

Still more than Wii U got.

Don't get me wrong, I reckon Wii U is a better console than GCN, with a better library, but I doubt GCN fans felt as burned in 2005 and Wii U owners do now.



It will sell 30 millionish number. As someone pointed out long ago no home / handheld console will cross 80 million mark in future; except Playstation home consoles. If Nintendo can make money from 30 million home consoles then its a success.



curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Just like GameCube which outside of Resident Evil 4 was pretty much just licensed titles and a few annual franchises post-2003?

Still more than Wii U got.

Don't get me wrong, I reckon Wii U is a better console than GCN, with a better library, but I doubt GCN fans felt as burned in 2005 and Wii U owners do now.


Ghostbusters Luigi Edition? Who asked for that?

Where is the "real" 3D Mario? I want Super Mario 64-2, not Mario Environmental Crew

Where is realistic Zelda? I don't want this kiddy, Celda

Meroid as a generic 1st person shooter? The franchise is ruined

I don't want this 2 racer gimmick in Mario Kart!!!!!!

What is this? Miyamoto's bug collecting/gardening simulator? The guy needs to retire

Animal Crossing? Where are the hardcore games, I didn't ask for this casual crap

Star Fox fighting dinosaurs? Get back in the cockpit!!!!!

Where is the Kirby platformer? All we get is a racing spinoff?

Bongo Kong? I didn't ask for this gimmick!!!!

Enough of the Mario Party/Sports games, there has been like 8 in 3 years!!!!

Why are all the multiplats late or inferior? Why don't we get Grand Theft Auto?

Ur right, Nintendo fans felt less burned during the GameCube days.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Yes, 120m at least.



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Still more than Wii U got.

Don't get me wrong, I reckon Wii U is a better console than GCN, with a better library, but I doubt GCN fans felt as burned in 2005 and Wii U owners do now.


Ghostbusters Luigi Edition? Who asked for that?

Where is the "real" 3D Mario? I want Super Mario 64-2, not Mario Environmental Crew

Where is realistic Zelda? I don't want this kiddy, Celda

Meroid as a generic 1st person shooter? The franchise is ruined

I don't want this 2 racer gimmick in Mario Kart!!!!!!

What is this? Miyamoto's bug collecting/gardening simulator? The guy needs to retire

Animal Crossing? Where are the hardcore games, I didn't ask for this casual crap

Star Fox fighting dinosaurs? Get back in the cockpit!!!!!

Where is the Kirby platformer? All we get is a racing spinoff?

Bongo Kong? I didn't ask for this gimmick!!!!

Enough of the Mario Party/Sports games, there has been like 8 in 3 years!!!!

Why are all the multiplats late or inferior? Why don't we get Grand Theft Auto?

Ur right, Nintendo fans felt less burned during the GameCube days.

I never said Nintendo fans weren't burned by the GCN; they were, hence it's lower sales compared to the N64.

But with the Wii U, Nintendo looks to be taking it to a whole new level if they cut ties with it after this yeafr, which it looks like they will, effectively giving it a 3 year lifespan.



It can be, but Nintendo has to convince a cynical market about its ability to support a home console for a decent length of time. And they need to secure some key 3rd party games with same day releases. If they can get R* to put GTA 6 on NX (because porting costs will be negligible, so why not?) and they can secure long term commitment to the platform for Fifa, CoD, Battlefield, AC etc, then that can help a lot. Like it or not the annual 3rd party franchise market is a sizeable chunk of the gamer market, and if you don't have them then you will always be limited to a minor share of the gamer pool.

Nintendo had the 2nd (is it 2nd yet) best selling home console of all time, and yet faile dto support it substantially beyond about 4 years. Contrast that with Sony's support for PS2 and the heavily handicapped in the early years PS3. Gamers know they can rely on Sony to get many good years of gaming out of their console purchase. Again, if you want to convince people to commit to NX you have to convince them that they will be getting new games for it for a longer timeframe than just 3 or 4 years.

They have made a good start with new IP with Splatoon, to some extent. It's a fun new IP, but it sits very musch within Nintendo's comfort zone and appeals mostly to the people who are already half way (or more) committed Nintendo.

I don't think they will make the mistake of releasing an expensive (for Nintendo) console, nor will they make it a loss leader. So I expect them to be making profit from day 1.



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curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:


Ghostbusters Luigi Edition? Who asked for that?

Where is the "real" 3D Mario? I want Super Mario 64-2, not Mario Environmental Crew

Where is realistic Zelda? I don't want this kiddy, Celda

Meroid as a generic 1st person shooter? The franchise is ruined

I don't want this 2 racer gimmick in Mario Kart!!!!!!

What is this? Miyamoto's bug collecting/gardening simulator? The guy needs to retire

Animal Crossing? Where are the hardcore games, I didn't ask for this casual crap

Star Fox fighting dinosaurs? Get back in the cockpit!!!!!

Where is the Kirby platformer? All we get is a racing spinoff?

Bongo Kong? I didn't ask for this gimmick!!!!

Enough of the Mario Party/Sports games, there has been like 8 in 3 years!!!!

Why are all the multiplats late or inferior? Why don't we get Grand Theft Auto?

Ur right, Nintendo fans felt less burned during the GameCube days.

I never said Nintendo fans weren't burned by the GCN; they were, hence it's lower sales compared to the N64.

But with the Wii U, Nintendo looks to be taking it to a whole new level if they cut ties with it after this yeafr, which it looks like they will, effectively giving it a 3 year lifespan.

There is no proof that 2016 won't have more Nintendo-published titles released, they said a few months ago that this E3 would focus on 2015 titles and that's exactly what it did. So far we know of Mario & Sonic Rio Olympics, Shin Megami Tensei × Fire Emblem & The Legend of Zelda U as 2016 titles.

N64/GC/Wii may have been on the market for 5-6 years but all of them got shit support after year 4 so even if those 3 listed titles are all we get for Wii U next year, that's still only one year less than the previous 3 consoles.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

It's way too soon to determine that right now imo.



zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

I never said Nintendo fans weren't burned by the GCN; they were, hence it's lower sales compared to the N64.

But with the Wii U, Nintendo looks to be taking it to a whole new level if they cut ties with it after this yeafr, which it looks like they will, effectively giving it a 3 year lifespan.

There is no proof that 2016 won't have more Nintendo-published titles released, they said a few months ago that this E3 would focus on 2015 titles and that's exactly what it did. So far we know of Mario & Sonic Rio Olympics, Shin Megami Tensei × Fire Emblem & The Legend of Zelda U as 2016 titles.

N64/GC/Wii may have been on the market for 5-6 years but all of them got shit support after year 4 so even if those 3 listed titles are all we get for Wii U next year, that's still only one year less than the previous 3 consoles.

That we only know of 3 games coming out beyond 2015 is awfully telling. 2016 will be what Wii's 2011/2012 was, painfully barren.

3 years of proper support is really not acceptable and will discourage gamers from investing in any of their future systems.