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Who had the better conference?

Xbox, Backwards Compatibi... 109 14.36%
 
Playstation; TLG, FFVII Remake, Shenmue 3! 511 67.33%
 
Both were unrealistically amazing! 54 7.11%
 
Both were absolutely awful! 21 2.77%
 
See Results 64 8.43%
 
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DonFerrari on 17 June 2015
d21lewis said:
fastyxx said:

I'm actually surprised the internet has been so overhwelmingly pro-Sony, but I guess it makes sense.  They had those surprises.

But I wonder.  I'm talking to my teenage students today about E3 and games, and one made a good point and the rest of the kids agreed.  He (current 360 owner who has been wanting to go PS4 with his summer job money) said basically "Why should I care about these games everyone is getting hyped about?"  TLG was first shown before he started really gaming outside of like Wii Sports and stuff.  He has no idea what Shenmue is and has never played a FF game, let alone one that launched the year he was born.  

As an older gamer, I hadn't thought about that.  I wonder how these "megatons" play out with younger audiences.  I've been playing since Atari, and I get why people would be amped for a remake of their favorite game. And I get why they are news.  But it's even hard for me to get too psyched about things coming out 2/3 years out.  (I know TLG was said to be 2016, but I'll believe that when I see it.  Unless they are purposely playing coy, that game is still in pretty low res state, showing the same stuff as before.  Makes me believe it isn't that far along)

If Shenmue is still getting funded, it's just starting.  2018 at the earliest.  FF VII they'll try to get out for the 20th anniversary if all goes well, so that's two years off at least. 

I dunno.  I'm looking forward to a lot of those games long-term, but they really are long-term.  


This is a very good post.  Able to cut past the hype and see things a bit more clearly.  Aside from the "megatons", Sony still showed some great stuff.  Uncharted looks better every time I see it and Horizon was a surprise, too.  I just feel that people are sometimes more motivated by "In your face!  My console is better than yours because...." type arguments than the reality of things.  People were throwing Agent (the vaporware from Rockstar) into arguments for years despite never seeing more than a logo.  Such is the nature of the beast.

Agent case was ridiculous, the use in wars was even worst.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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d21lewis on 17 June 2015
DonFerrari said:
d21lewis said:


This, I agree with.


Funny enough I think I liked Nintendo presentation more than ninty fans, probably because for me it's an addition to my ps4 not my main reason to play.

I just had high hopes that Nintendo had some sort of megaton that would knock it out of the park.  I actually really like the Starfox reveal (it will get better before launch, too) and Xenoblade looked good, too.  It was just all of the filler that killed it for me.   Pokemon, Zelda, Wave Race, something.  Before E3, there were only a few more games I wanted for Wii U before I figure I retire the console and after E3, I don't think that number increased by a single game.  Kinda heartbreaking.



foodfather on 17 June 2015

I dont get get how this is a big deal.

In this gameosphere, remakes and reboots are pretty much given. Everybody knew a FF7 remake was on the way. Everybody should have known Shemnuene would follow the route of the kickstarter trend. Its all a bit bizarre to me.

I have a bone to pick with famed directors using the platform as well for making these ''spiritual successors''. There are far more original and more worthy games out there that could do with the same level of exposure.

I'm sure if MS did a kickstarter for Conker they would have been scrutinised by everybody and their mother.



KingdomHeartsFan on 17 June 2015

Sony killed it, and that's without revealing things like GoW4 or GT7.



Fusioncode on 17 June 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
loy310 said:
Must be demoralizing af for Xbox staff. They work their ass off all year, brought their A game and still Sony blows them out the water. Reminded me of Lord Stannis vs Winterfell, total blowout, ain't even see it coming.
Clearly Sony is on another level this gen.

I think we would be more impressed with Sony if they actually impressed us with their own games.

Sony never showed more reliance on 3rd parties. Some of their most notable showings were multiplat or coming to PC. These are things MS has been heavily criticized for.

Two of the most impressive games of the show are Horizon and Uncharted 4, which as far as I'm aware, are in fact Sony games.  



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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KingdomHeartsFan on 17 June 2015
foodfather said:
I dont get get how this is a big deal.

In this gameosphere, remakes and reboots are pretty much given. Everybody knew a FF7 remake was on the way. Everybody should have known Shemnuene would follow the route of the kickstarter trend. Its all a bit bizarre to me.

I have a bone to pick with famed directors using the platform as well for making these ''spiritual successors''. There are far more original and more worthy games out there that could do with the same level of exposure.

I'm sure if MS did a kickstarter for Conker they would have been scrutinised by everybody and their mother.

Flat out lie, SE even said in the past they are not making a FF7 remake til a new FF surpasses the quality of FF7 so everyone was pretty much like when the f is that gonna happen?!



DonFerrari on 17 June 2015
d21lewis said:
DonFerrari said:


Funny enough I think I liked Nintendo presentation more than ninty fans, probably because for me it's an addition to my ps4 not my main reason to play.

I just had high hopes that Nintendo had some sort of megaton that would knock it out of the park.  I actually really like the Starfox reveal (it will get better before launch, too) and Xenoblade looked good, too.  It was just all of the filler that killed it for me.   Pokemon, Zelda, Wave Race, something.  Before E3, there were only a few more games I wanted for Wii U before I figure I retire the console and after E3, I don't think that number increased by a single game.  Kinda heartbreaking.

I feel your pain. M. Ps4 have one year and I haven't bought 5 games yet, but on ps3 I bought in '09 with like 6 games already and now have 120 retail... Besides being crazy for gt7.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

A203D on 17 June 2015

Don't think FF7 remake was anything to brag about. They took 5 years for FF13 and FF15 has taken what 10 years now?

For me what stole the show was the sheer number of games, especially Uncharted 4 and Shenmue 3.



pitzy272 on 17 June 2015

I agree entirely! Thought MS was gonna win for sure. But then Sony knocked it out of the park AGAIN! They're just doing so much right.



A203D on 17 June 2015
the-pi-guy said:
A203D said:
Don't think FF7 remake was anything to brag about. They took 5 years for FF13 and FF15 has taken what 10 years now?

For me what stole the show was the sheer number of games, especially Uncharted 4 and Shenmue 3.

FF13-2 and FF13-3 both only took 2 years.  
Might be able to make it quicker than one would expect, particularly since the game is basically complete.  

Unfortuantely the quality of FF13-2 and FF13-3 is quite widely disputed. So while it took them two years, these games seemed more like cash grabs.

FF7 is a welcomed return, but they're proposing this before FF15 has been given a release date. Even then I expect at least 2 years between a release for FF15 and FF7. Then you have to take into account it FF15 might not be released until 2016 or 2017, by the time FF7 comes outs it will be the end of the generation again, and they might move it ot PS5.

The only salvation is like you said they have everything sorted out in terms of what content they want, and PS4 and X1 are easy to develop for, unlike PS3 which was a nightmare to develop FF13. So hopefully they can get it done in just a few more years.