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RenCutypoison on 16 June 2015
MANUELF said:

Im of a similar opinion of you, their gigatons like they are called on the internet were an already anounced game that became vaporware 6 years ago, a remake and a kickstarter, I expected new games and got very little of them


Paris Games week and TGS might bring something new. That said most of their 2015 lineup is proabably already announced, so I guess we are good for now.

Also I'm kind of happy they didn't rebroadcast stuff like ratchet and clank that we know about and got new content about recently.



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Aura7541 on 16 June 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Aura7541 said:

So you're saying it's not a game because you think it's not a game. You haven't provided any evidence and merely relied on reptetitive dogma.

You can't call me a nazi pedophile because you have no proof I'm a nazi pedophile.

But you can say I'm not a nazi pedophile because, as far as you know, I'm not a nazi pedophile. Is it that hard to understand ?

You can state something is not because you have no proof of its existence. 

You can't state something is withou proof it exists. Or it's called faith and it's per definition irrationnal.

So I guesss we have moved on to false equivalencies? To you, it's not a game. To many others, they see Dreams as a game. It's a matter of opinion and apparently, you don't consider Dreams a game because it doesn't fit your tastes. Because it is not appealing to you, you don't consider it to be a game.

If you want to keep pushing your opinions as facts, then that's irrational faith.



Protendo on 16 June 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Protendo said:

Yet your title is Sony won with nothing...so it's somehow nothing too.


So you read the title without the op ?

Geez i should have gone for a good old bait, that would have been funny.


Change your title....



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RenCutypoison on 16 June 2015
Aura7541 said:

So I guesss we have moved on to false equivalencies? To you, it's not a game. To many others, they see Dreams as a game. It's a matter of opinion and apparently, you don't consider Dreams a game because it doesn't fit your tastes. Because it is not appealing to you, you don't consider it to be a game.

If you want to keep pushing your opinions as facts, then that's irrational faith.

This has nothing to do with my tastes. I never stated any opinion regarding my appreciation of Dreams.

I'm just stating that, with what the developpers showed, there is no proof it's a game and not a modelling tool, a sales platform with a built-in game developping tool or something else entirely. If there is no proof it's a game, it's not a game until proven otherwise. just like I'm not a nazi pedophile until proven otherwise.



Aura7541 on 16 June 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Aura7541 said:

So I guesss we have moved on to false equivalencies? To you, it's not a game. To many others, they see Dreams as a game. It's a matter of opinion and apparently, you don't consider Dreams a game because it doesn't fit your tastes. Because it is not appealing to you, you don't consider it to be a game.

If you want to keep pushing your opinions as facts, then that's irrational faith.

This has nothing to do with my tastes. I never stated any opinion regarding my appreciation of Dreams.

I'm just stating that, with what the developpers showed, there is no proof it's a game and not a modelling tool, a sales platform with a built-in game developping tool or something else entirely. If there is no proof it's a game, it's not a game until proven otherwise. just like I'm not a nazi pedophile until proven otherwise.

It's a game with modelling tools. Like LittleBigPlanet, which was a game, Dreams is dependent on user-generated content. Therefore, it is a game.



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Goddbless on 16 June 2015
Mmmfishtacos said:
RenCutypoison said:


Vita is a legacy system, they called it. Also still mutliplatform.

We can't really call dreams a game with what we saw. I do admit i went past these two. Mea Culpa. Still, these are not where most of the excitment from this conference came from. My point is that the gigatons they announced are not gigatons for Sony, just gigatons.

Well they are. It's the only place you'll get to  play all these games in one spot.  It dosent really matter if there are on pc or vita. There all in one place,  ps4! These coupled with all their other exclusive past and present make ps4 the most desirable system to own.

You do realize you're using an old Don Mattrick catchprhase...?



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RenCutypoison on 16 June 2015
Aura7541 said:
RenCutypoison said:

This has nothing to do with my tastes. I never stated any opinion regarding my appreciation of Dreams.

I'm just stating that, with what the developpers showed, there is no proof it's a game and not a modelling tool, a sales platform with a built-in game developping tool or something else entirely. If there is no proof it's a game, it's not a game until proven otherwise. just like I'm not a nazi pedophile until proven otherwise.

It's a game with modelling tools. Like LittleBigPlanet, which was a game, Dreams is dependent on user-generated content. Therefore, it is a game.


No. it has modeling tool and it's on ps4. You have no proof it's a game. maybe it's like TBP as you said. It's even highly likely. But there is no definite proof or testimony proving it's a game. Stop stating thing out of thin air.



RenCutypoison on 16 June 2015
Goddbless said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Well they are. It's the only place you'll get to  play all these games in one spot.  It dosent really matter if there are on pc or vita. There all in one place,  ps4! These coupled with all their other exclusive past and present make ps4 the most desirable system to own.

You do realize you're using an old Don Mattrick catchprhase...?

Well sometimes even Don Mattrick say smart stuff =p
Funny anecdote though, I didn't thing about it.



Goddbless on 16 June 2015
Protendo said:
RenCutypoison said:


It's not a game it's a modeling tool on ps4 lol.

I agree it looks exciting though, but I have absolutely no idea what it is. I mean it's like Doom presentation being all about the custom maps and guess everything else guys, we're done here.


It's not a game, but you have no idea what it is...

They said you can make games....

So it's like Project Spark?



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Aura7541 on 16 June 2015
RenCutypoison said:
Aura7541 said:

It's a game with modelling tools. Like LittleBigPlanet, which was a game, Dreams is dependent on user-generated content. Therefore, it is a game.

No. it has modeling tool and it's on ps4. You have no proof it's a game. maybe it's like TBP as you said. It's even highly likely. But there is no definite proof or testimony proving it's a game. Stop stating thing out of thin air.

I think you need to stop stating opinions as facts. In fact, what is even the point of this opinion? Tit-for-tat mentality?