shikamaru317 said:
Soundwave said:
I think that estimate on the GPU is pretty high especially when you're speccing it with the RAM as separate. $299.99 at retail for a Polaris 10, likely means a $200 manufacturing cost today, factor in another 16 months from now, and that's probably doable for MS at $130. Keep in mind MS is not some kid at a Best Buy buying 1 Polaris 10, they are ordering in bulk in the millions for a multiple years, they will get a much better price. I'd say $130 for the GPU part alone + $50 for the RAM + $60 for the CPU + $40 for the HDD + $15 for the controller + $20 for the PSU + $80 for misc components (casing, heatsink, disc drive, motherboard).
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You have a point. XB1's APU (CPU + GPU) only cost $110 while PS4's only cost $100. Memory for XB1 was $60 while PS4 was $88. A custom Polaris 10 and Zen APU will likely cost more than the XB1 and PS4 APU's did because Polaris and Zen are newer tech than was used in the XB1 and PS4 APU's at the time, but it might not be significantly more. Memory could potentially cost less than it did for XB1 and PS4, back in 2013 memory prices were really high, they've gone down some since then, so even if XB1 II has more RAM than PS4/XB1 it could still cost less. We could potentially see XB1 II for $400 at release. I hope so, that would be a great price point for those specs. $450 is the highest they should go, even if they have to sell at a small loss to hit $450.
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To be honest the PS4/XB1 GPUs weren't even that old when they launched.
The 7850-7870 which is basically the GPU for the PS4 was released in middle 2012. The 7870 cost $350 at launch.
The Polaris 10 is launching this year, if the XB2 launches next fall ... that would be basically almost the exact same time line as the PS4/XB1 GPUs. The Polaris 10 will supposedly cost $300 at launch.
A 2016 Polaris 10 customized for the XB2 for fall 2017 is pretty much right in line with the PS4/XB1 using mid-2012 GPU tech.