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DeusXmachina on 25 May 2016

So, at what price would you consider buying the Xbox 1.5 at launch?
Personally, if I can play every game at my original xbox one, even if its very downgraded, I'll probably never buy it.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 25 May 2016

If Microsoft impresses (yes that's spelled right) at E3 I might just keep the regular PS4 and get an XBOX ONE Mk II. Come on E3.



   

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jason1637 on 25 May 2016
DeusXmachina said:
So, at what price would you consider buying the Xbox 1.5 at launch?
Personally, if I can play every game at my original xbox one, even if its very downgraded, I'll probably never buy it.

I probably won't get it at launch but will be willing to pay $400 for it.



KiigelHeart on 26 May 2016
DeusXmachina said:
So, at what price would you consider buying the Xbox 1.5 at launch?
Personally, if I can play every game at my original xbox one, even if its very downgraded, I'll probably never buy it.

If I can play original Xbox One games with it, whatever they're asking. Hopefully they'll come up with plenty of xbox/win10 exclusives as well. Interesting times ahead 😎 to think a while back many seemed to have lost their hope with Xbox.



kyokusanagi on 26 May 2016

I think I'm the minority but for me I'll get xbox no matter if they bring a new one every 3 years I'll always buy it money is not the problem for me :)

I don't care if they bring the games to pc either so I'm good.



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kyokusanagi on 26 May 2016
DeusXmachina said:
So, at what price would you consider buying the Xbox 1.5 at launch?
Personally, if I can play every game at my original xbox one, even if its very downgraded, I'll probably never buy it.

For me under 1 thousand but i'm thinking is going to be 500 or 600.



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kyokusanagi on 26 May 2016
shikamaru317 said:
kyokusanagi said:

For me under 1 thousand but i'm thinking is going to be 500 or 600.

I think it'll be $500 tops. The rumored 6 teraflop GPU target pretty much perfectly matches with Polaris 10. Polaris 10 is releasing this summer for less than $300 at retail. By mid-2017 when Xbox One II will enter full production Polaris 10 will likely have dropped to $250 at retail in response to Nvidia releasing the Geforce 1060. Because MS buys in bulk and there's no retailer getting a cut, MS will likely be able to get Polaris 10 for less than $200, probably around $150-180.

Then there's the CPU, likely one of AMD's new Zen CPU's which are twice as strong as the old AMD CPU's. Because there's less CPU overhead on a game console than on a PC, MS can likely get away with a low-mid range Zen CPU which will retail for around $110, so MS will likely only need to pay $70 or so since they're buying in bulk straight from AMD.

We didn't get any details about the RAM configuration for Xbox One II yesterday, but I'm guessing it'll either use 10-12 GB of DDR4 + a small amount of high speed esRAM (similar to Xbox One's RAM configuration), or 10-12 GB of GDDR5 (similar to PS4's RAM configuration). So I'm guessing MS will pay around $60-$70 for the RAM in bulk.

Cost Breakdown

GPU- Polaris 10- $150-$180
CPU- Low-mid range Zen- $70
RAM- DDR4+esRAM or GDDR5- $60-$70
Power supply- $25
Hard Drive- 2 TB- $50 
Disc Drive- Blu-Ray: $25
Motherboard- $20
Case materials and assembly: $20 
Heatsink and fan- $10
Controller- $20 (XB1 controller costs $15 to manufacture, so assuming a few improvements a $5 increase makes sense)

Total Cost: $450-$490

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Soundwave on 26 May 2016

I think that estimate on the GPU is pretty high especially when you're speccing it with the RAM as separate.

$299.99 at retail for a Polaris 10, likely means a $200 manufacturing cost today, factor in another 16 months from now, and that's probably doable for MS at $130.

Keep in mind MS is not some kid at a Best Buy buying 1 Polaris 10, they are ordering in bulk in the millions for a multiple years, they will get a much better price.

I'd say $130 for the GPU part alone + $50 for the RAM + $60 for the CPU + $40 for the HDD + $15 for the controller + $20 for the PSU + $80 for misc components (casing, heatsink, disc drive, motherboard). 



jason1637 on 26 May 2016

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hudsoniscool on 26 May 2016
shikamaru317 said:
Soundwave said:

I think that estimate on the GPU is pretty high especially when you're speccing it with the RAM as separate.

$299.99 at retail for a Polaris 10, likely means a $200 manufacturing cost today, factor in another 16 months from now, and that's probably doable for MS at $130.

Keep in mind MS is not some kid at a Best Buy buying 1 Polaris 10, they are ordering in bulk in the millions for a multiple years, they will get a much better price.

I'd say $130 for the GPU part alone + $50 for the RAM + $60 for the CPU + $40 for the HDD + $15 for the controller + $20 for the PSU + $80 for misc components (casing, heatsink, disc drive, motherboard). 

You have a point. XB1's  APU (CPU + GPU) only cost $110 while PS4's only cost $100. Memory for XB1 was $60 while PS4 was $88. A custom Polaris 10 and Zen APU will likely cost more than the XB1 and PS4 APU's did because Polaris and Zen are newer tech than was used in the XB1 and PS4 APU's at the time, but it might not be significantly more. Memory could potentially cost less than it did for XB1 and PS4, back in 2013 memory prices were really high, they've gone down some since then, so even if XB1 II has more RAM than PS4/XB1 it could still cost less. We could potentially see XB1 II for $400 at release. I hope so, that would be a great price point for those specs. $450 is the highest they should go, even if they have to sell at a small loss to hit $450.

So ur thinking 400-450 for x1 mk2 in 2017. What do u think the manufacturing cost for the standard X1 is right now. And do u think the slim could be $250.



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