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Angelus on 13 July 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
iceland said:

forced support xD the fact the 360 was so popular in america and MS actually had to buy timed exclusivity for a lot of those titles.

I think Goat is just asking how they going to expect KH3 to do well when they can't even port over the previous titles? That's just a bad move on SE, they should've ported the first two back on 360 to build up to KH3. 

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

lol BS, PS4 is getting those ports aren't they? The architecture of these consoles now are so damn identical, if you port a game to one, you can port it to the other with pretty minimal effort. That shit isn't an excuse anymore



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ice on 13 July 2017
Angelus said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

lol BS, PS4 is getting those ports aren't they? The architecture of these consoles now are so damn identical, if you port a game to one, you can port it to the other with pretty minimal effort. That shit isn't an excuse anymore

Sega did it with Valkyria Revolution,  if they didn't think it'll inch a profit why would they? xD  



crissindahouse on 13 July 2017
Ruler said:
Goatseye said:
No one could ever explain to me, the reason how awful Japanese publishers are at handling their IPs on Xbox.
If KH3 flops on Xbox, they'll say there's no market for it on the platform. When the truth is that, they never supported or made an effort to create a fan base on the platform.


Stop talking BS, they supported you in xbox 360 era, tons of japanese exclusives to this day but you rather played cod etc. 

People buy consoles for games or not? If people interested in JRPGs didn't buy a 360 for these JRPGs then they were either not good enough to buy a console for, there were still not enough JRPGs to get the fans of them to 360 or the JRPG fans were the problem because they didn't buy a 360 for "some reason" even with enough JRPGs

It's not the fault of those who bought a 360 for COD. It's more the fault of guys like you who seem to like these games but who didn't want to buy a 360 "for reasons". 

If you think that 360 got enough great JRPGs and they still didn't sell then I have to ask what did JRPG fans do? Did they think "wow so many games I have to play but it is the wrong brand"? 

Don't blame those who don't give a shit about JRPGs that they don't buy them. It's up to the JRPG fans to buy a console for them or not. 



Barozi on 13 July 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
iceland said:

forced support xD the fact the 360 was so popular in america and MS actually had to buy timed exclusivity for a lot of those titles.

I think Goat is just asking how they going to expect KH3 to do well when they can't even port over the previous titles? That's just a bad move on SE, they should've ported the first two back on 360 to build up to KH3. 

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

That's a very shortsighted view. How are they expecting to sell KH3 when there has never been a KH game on Xbox consoles. Remasters are cheap and would've been the perfect opportunity to port them to Xbox One. Even if sales wouldn't have been enough to break even (which I doubt), this would've lead to higher sales of KH3, which obviously means more money.



derpysquirtle64 on 13 July 2017
iceland said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

on the 360 it would've sold well enough to warrant it, kinda my point. Right now, they might as well cancel KH3 on xbox one.

Maybe. But just by looking at Wikipedia it seems that there wasn't mainline KH games last gen on home consoles. The first two were ported to PS3 and PS4 but it was at the end of 7th gen and Xbox wasn't getting lots of Japanese games by that time.



 

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derpysquirtle64 on 13 July 2017
Angelus said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

lol BS, PS4 is getting those ports aren't they? The architecture of these consoles now are so damn identical, if you port a game to one, you can port it to the other with pretty minimal effort. That shit isn't an excuse anymore

It is not true. Because the cost of porting some game to Xbox doesn't consist only of development. You should add at least QA here, publishing costs as well as MS still having some stupid requirements for physical game distribution.



 

derpysquirtle64 on 13 July 2017
Barozi said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

That's a very shortsighted view. How are they expecting to sell KH3 when there has never been a KH game on Xbox consoles. Remasters are cheap and would've been the perfect opportunity to port them to Xbox One. Even if sales wouldn't have been enough to break even (which I doubt), this would've lead to higher sales of KH3, which obviously means more money.

KH3 was announced for Xbox One in 2013. Back then SqEnix didn't know that it will flop in Japan as it did and they had high expectations for the console it seems. Now they've nothing left but maybe to take a small loss and release game on Xbox One. Otherwise they will let down some people who wait for this game on Xbox One.



 

Spade on 13 July 2017
Angelus said:
The appeal of Cuphead is completely lost on me

A good looking game lost on you? Not surprised  



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Spade on 13 July 2017
Ruler said:
Goatseye said:
No one could ever explain to me, the reason how awful Japanese publishers are at handling their IPs on Xbox.
If KH3 flops on Xbox, they'll say there's no market for it on the platform. When the truth is that, they never supported or made an effort to create a fan base on the platform.


Stop talking BS, they supported you in xbox 360 era, tons of japanese exclusives to this day but you rather played cod etc. 

Get this kind of shit out of here and stop trying pidgeon whole a group of Xbox games into one subset. PS is just as much as a COD box as Xbox. 



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Spade on 13 July 2017

So much BS about development cost with these JRPGs, it makes me laugh. Like Angelus said these consoles are nearly identical and porting them over would cost next to nothing. At this point it's either Sony money hatting games to stay on PS, or laziness. I'm sure with how similar they are even if they bombed on Xbox they would make back more money than lose it just because of the similarities in the x86 structure.



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