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Aeolus451 on 03 June 2015
sweetoothj said:
DerNebel said:

1.Microsoft didn't buy the Tomb Raider name and he clearly stated that the deal he has has a duration.

2. People might be ignoring it because he never said it, Phil Spencer said that he wouldn't fund the development of a version on a rivals system, so he won't fund the PS4 version of RoTR, nowhere did he say that he's stopping SE from funding it themselves.

3. Google Ryse PS4, you will find an interview in which Crytek says they are open to a PS4 version of the game. MS is not stopping them. The reason Ryse and Dead Rising 3 are not on PS4 are not because of MS.

 

And if Tomb Raider won't come to PS4 why won't he just say it? Like they did with Titanfall or like Sony did with SFV? Give one good reason for that.

1. Obviously he didn't pay for tomb raider franchise, but doesn't mean he can't buy a title from the franchise and make it exclusive.

2. Sure square enix can fund the game, but they can't use any assets that microsoft contributed to so that means they would have to start from scratch in many areas.

3. Sure, he is open to it, but doesn't mean he can (or easily can) he has to probably redo alot of things and make sure nothing in the game is what Microsoft contributed to (if he could make the ps4 version why hasn't he already?). Also, spencer said plenty of time he will not talk about rival platform at all (or at least tries to). He is focus on xbox and to a certain extent on PC. Also, he probably doesn't want to talk too much about it because he wants to promote xbox and doesn't want anyone to know of a pc version. Titan Fall was released on pc the same day as the xbox version so it make sense to go ahead and talk about it.

 

However, go ahead and wait for a ps4 version. Maybe you will get lucky and square enix buys the rights to the game and allows the game to release on ps4 at the end of the generation just like the original mass effect.

MS doesn't own the IP "tomb raider" or the dev involved in it. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Tomb_Raider

On 1 August 2013, Phil Rogers, Square Enix' Western CEO, confirmed in a blog post on the company's official website that a "next-generation Tomb Raider sequel" is "well into development".[6]

On 9 June 2014, Rise of the Tomb Raider was formally announced with a press release, after a first trailer premiered on Microsoft's E3 press conference earlier the same day. That same trailer was later televised during Xbox Live's broadcast of the Miss Teen USA 2014 beauty pageant.

At Microsoft's Gamescom 2014 briefing, it was announced that the game will be released in late 2015 as a timed exclusive for Xbox platforms.[7][8] In February 2015, Crystal Dynamics announced that the Xbox 360 version is being developed by Nixxes Software.[1]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Dynamics

Crystal Dynamics is an American video game developer that was founded in 1992 by Judy Lang, Madeline Canepa and Dave Morris. Based in the San Francisco Bay Area, it was acquired by Eidos Interactive in 1998. After Square Enix's acquisition of Eidos in 2009, it became a subsidiary of Square Enix.[1] Crystal was the first licensed developer for 3DO. The company's mascot was the video game character, Gex The Gecko.



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GribbleGrunger on 03 June 2015
sweetoothj said:

He doesn't own tomb raider, but he does have the rights to rise of tomb raider. That is why it won't show up on PS4 unless Square enix buys that specific game back. Also, every deal and contracts have duration. The duration could be 99 years for all you know.

Probably 3 - 4 months.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


sweetoothj on 03 June 2015
Azuren said:
sweetoothj said:


No, because if history showed us anything (dead rising, titan fall, and more) Microsoft can make third party indvidual titles exclsuive to their platforms through contracts. Makes sense considering they are pretty much funding the game. Why would Microsoft fund the game if it is going to show up right away on the rival platform? Makes no sense.


If a third party developer doesn't want to sign the contract, they don't have to. Microsoft can't force them to sign contracts. 


Sure they can, they have money unlike Sony. Money speaks louder than anything else.



Aura7541 on 03 June 2015
sweetoothj said:
Azuren said:


If a third party developer doesn't want to sign the contract, they don't have to. Microsoft can't force them to sign contracts. 


Sure they can, they have money unlike Sony. Money speaks louder than anything else.

Wait, the XBO has a larger install base than the PS4?! Where did all these phantom sales come from?!! o_O

GribbleGrunger said:

Probably 3 - 4 months.

Funny that he has to be told this thrice, though it's actually 4-6 months.



gooch_destroyer on 03 June 2015
sweetoothj said:
Azuren said:


If a third party developer doesn't want to sign the contract, they don't have to. Microsoft can't force them to sign contracts. 


Sure they can, they have money unlike Sony. Money speaks louder than anything else.


How do you explain SFV?



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Aerys on 03 June 2015
darkenergy said:
Aerys said:
darkenergy said:
Aerys said:


Read better dude, he didnt contradict himself at all, he said " first party", Sunset Overdrive is not first party but 3rd party ( they dont even own the IP ) so he is right

Read the part when I said Forza Horizon 2 and Halo the Master Chief Collection. 

 but H MCC is, like it's name says, a collection of games not exclusive.

I...DONT...EVEN...WWWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTT!!!

So tell me what would you call the Uncharted Collection if Its announced? An exclusive? Never mind, this post from you tells me I should just stop here


You dont even know that games available on other consoles cant be called exclusives ? Well, thats the real definition of exclusivity, a game that cant be made on an other platform my friend, a port/remaster/remake is not an exclusive, TLOU R, GOW 3 remaster, Uncharted Collection are not exclusive, a lot of people did the same mistake so i understand your confusion.


But if you want to talk about games available on One but not on PS4, that's an other story, a complicated story because on the other side, if you take every PS4 game not on One ( multiplatform with Vita/PS3/PC), the list is way too long to make and it's not fair to One



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

GribbleGrunger on 03 June 2015
Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

 

Funny that he has to be told this thrice, though it's actually 4-6 months.


It's still a really bad move by SE. The install base of the PS4 is currently 22m and is likely to be at least 26m - 28m by the time TR releases. Add into that the fact the fanbase is PS centric and it's a recipe for disaster, especially when this is part two of an ongoing story. It would be like releasing Lord of the Rings on DVD and then announcing you have to buy a Blu-ray to watch the second movie.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


sweetoothj on 03 June 2015
Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

Wait, the XBO has a larger install base than the PS4?! Where did all these phantom sales come from?!! o_O

GribbleGrunger said:

Probably 3 - 4 months.

Funny that he has to be told this thrice, though it's actually 4-6 months.


The sales probably come from people with high expectations with ps4, but sadly they are not living up to. Andrew even admited the play station exclusive line up of games for the rest of the year is sparse. 



sweetoothj on 03 June 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
Aura7541 said:

It's still a really bad move by SE. The install base of the PS4 is currently 22m and is likely to be at least 26m - 28m by the time TR releases. Add into that the fact the fanbase is PS centric and it's a recipe for disaster, especially when this is part two of an ongoing story. It would be like releasing Lord of the Rings on DVD and then announcing you have to buy a Blu-ray to watch the second movie.


No, it is smart for SE to do this. Since Microsoft is publishing the game it means SE is guranteed money and they have esentially no risk at all.



Aura7541 on 03 June 2015
GribbleGrunger said:

It's still a really bad move by SE. The install base of the PS4 is currently 22m and is likely to be at least 26m - 28m by the time TR releases. Add into that the fact the fanbase is PS centric and it's a recipe for disaster, especially when this is part two of an ongoing story. It would be like releasing Lord of the Rings on DVD and then announcing you have to buy a Blu-ray to watch the second movie.

From what I gathered, SE and Crystal Dynamics had this deal planned out with MS before this gen began. 3rd party publishers, including Square Enix, thought the XBO would fare a lot better than how it's actually doing and did not anticipate the shift in marketshare from last gen to this gen. And well... SE must be kicking themselves right now.