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torok said:
bigtakilla said:
torok said:


So you decide what is and what isn't a game? No problem, I have another one, realtime GOW Ascension:

You can keep trying man. Either way, it's just your bias clouding your judgement.

The graphics were so clearly advanced to older PS3 games the link broke. 

It's working for me. But I guess the only good visuals are on Nintendo games in your book, right?

Lol, never said that. But its obvious your logic would take you directly to that conclusion.



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bigtakilla said:

Lol, never said that. But its obvious your logic would take you directly to that conclusion.


It seems reasonable. You said one of the top graphics for early PS3 games and then for recent games. You said the second was pre-rendered (it was). So I showed you one that wasn't. You said that "it wasn't a game". So I showed you another. The conclusion is easuy following your forum history, so there isn't much point in arguing with you when you are just trying to prove you agenda.



torok said:
bigtakilla said:

Lol, never said that. But its obvious your logic would take you directly to that conclusion.


It seems reasonable. You said one of the top graphics for early PS3 games and then for recent games. You said the second was pre-rendered (it was). So I showed you one that wasn't. You said that "it wasn't a game". So I showed you another. The conclusion is easuy following your forum history, so there isn't much point in arguing with you when you are just trying to prove you agenda.

Didn't see the second one, and the first one would be like saying Power Rangers for Sega CD shows its graphics capabilities. It's kind of funny.

But I'll even entertain it by looking it up myself. 

God Of War 3

God Of War Ascension

Is it better? Sure. But not by some huge amount. Certainly not enough to say that the "power was no where near realized" from one to the other, and the architecture of that system was far more alien to devs than PS4.



bigtakilla said:
torok said:


It seems reasonable. You said one of the top graphics for early PS3 games and then for recent games. You said the second was pre-rendered (it was). So I showed you one that wasn't. You said that "it wasn't a game". So I showed you another. The conclusion is easuy following your forum history, so there isn't much point in arguing with you when you are just trying to prove you agenda.

Didn't see the second one, and the first one would be like saying Power Rangers for Sega CD shows its graphics capabilities. It's kind of funny.

But I'll even entertain it by looking it up myself. 

God Of War 3

God Of War Ascension

Is it better? Sure. But not by some huge amount.

GOW 3 also wasn't an early gen game. But as was pointed out earlier, the gap between games like Uncharted 1 and 3 shows a huge graphical leap during the same gen.

It's not just the PS3 either, look at Halo 3 next to Halo 4.

 

 

Last gen saw a significant improvement in graphics over the course of the gen, and according to the devs, this gen will see the same sort of jump.



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Normchacho said:
bigtakilla said:

Didn't see the second one, and the first one would be like saying Power Rangers for Sega CD shows its graphics capabilities. It's kind of funny.

But I'll even entertain it by looking it up myself. 

God Of War 3

God Of War Ascension

Is it better? Sure. But not by some huge amount.

GOW 3 also wasn't an early gen game. But as was pointed out earlier, the gap between games like Uncharted 1 and 3 shows a huge graphical leap during the same gen.

It's not just the PS3 either, look at Halo 3 next to Halo 4.

 

 

Last gen saw a significant improvement in graphics over the course of the gen, and according to the devs, this gen will see the same sort of jump.

Sounds good.



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bigtakilla said:
torok said:


It seems reasonable. You said one of the top graphics for early PS3 games and then for recent games. You said the second was pre-rendered (it was). So I showed you one that wasn't. You said that "it wasn't a game". So I showed you another. The conclusion is easuy following your forum history, so there isn't much point in arguing with you when you are just trying to prove you agenda.

Didn't see the second one, and the first one would be like saying Power Rangers for Sega CD shows its graphics capabilities. It's kind of funny.

But I'll even entertain it by looking it up myself. 

God Of War 3

God Of War Ascension

Is it better? Sure. But not by some huge amount. Certainly not enough to say that the "power was no where near realized" from one to the other, and the architecture of that system was far more alien to devs than PS4.

You picked the wrong games for comparison. God Of War III is still one of the best looking games on PS3. If you really want to compare, compare it with an early PS3 game. There is a huge difference.



GameMasterPC said:
bigtakilla said:

Didn't see the second one, and the first one would be like saying Power Rangers for Sega CD shows its graphics capabilities. It's kind of funny.

But I'll even entertain it by looking it up myself. 

God Of War 3

God Of War Ascension

Is it better? Sure. But not by some huge amount. Certainly not enough to say that the "power was no where near realized" from one to the other, and the architecture of that system was far more alien to devs than PS4.

You picked the wrong games for comparison. God Of War III is still one of the best looking games on PS3. If you really want to compare, compare it with an early PS3 game. There is a huge difference.

Just comparing the progression of a series that has multiple releases through a gen. I done Uncharted and GOW. It's fine if people feel this is a huge leap, it comes down to opinion anyways when considering a big leap, but if last gen didn't show it I doubt this gen will. 



bigtakilla said:

 

Just comparing the progression of a series that has multiple releases through a gen. I done Uncharted and GOW. It's fine if people feel this is a huge leap, it comes down to opinion anyways when considering a big leap, but if last gen didn't show it I doubt this gen will. 


GOW 3 is a 2010 game, 4 years after PS3 launched. It surely looks way better than early games, thanks for helping to prove my point! Either way, I think any graphics comparison that isn't on the Wii U won't make you happy.



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Chazore said:
DialgaMarine said:

Depends on the game, really. I think it's more or less people feel that reolution and framerate don't need to be top of the line for a game to still look and run good. i.e. Just because isn't 1080p/ 60 FPS doesn't mean it's automatically a graphical failure. :|

Yeah but when you see something like a PC doing it it's suddenly no biggie or it'll get picked apart, then when lower end off the shelf hardware does it it suddenly matters which is what I was trying to point out. Last gen people were more or less not making much of a deal of the resolution while PC was more or less ahead with the whole 1080p 60fps, before current gen released people were making a big fuss over it, now we see some games can/can't handle the full spec this gen marketed us towards and some people twiddle their thumbs and scuff their feet like it didn't matter, only when it works for them does it suddenly matter and that's what has become the new annoying thing this gen with people moving goalposts a lot more, PC is already egaring and making the first strides towards 4k 30fps and then 60fps and right now anyone on current gen isn't making a deal of it let alone seeing what it can do, I bet if it eventually happens to the enxt gen or the one after that those same people will suddenly make a fuss about it and brush off those people that told them about the first strides made years before, all because it didn't matter then but suddenly matters now when it fits their vision.

 That's fanboys. That doesn't apply to just graphics; fanboys will flip flop on any of their arguements to support an agenda.





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