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teigaga said:


Confirmation they're distancing themselves from the Wii and DS brand. The only thing I hope is that they keep the NX name for the home console. Its perfectly and will resonate with the masses in a non gimmicky way.


This 100%. People need to know it's not 3DS 2 or Wii 3.It's a New Nintendo system. Frankly I expect the new name will be dire as they haven't named a console properly in years, though at least the Gamecube was self explanitory.

With the NX in general, I remember a few years back there was this neo geo system which allowed you to play it as a portable when you removed it from the docking/charging bay, and ran on the tv full screen once docked. It was cheap garbage and quickly discontinued but the general concept was solid. This seems like a good opportunity to take that sort of concept and do it right.



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TheGreatGamerGod said:
teigaga said:


Confirmation they're distancing themselves from the Wii and DS brand. The only thing I hope is that they keep the NX name for the home console. Its perfectly and will resonate with the masses in a non gimmicky way.


This 100%. People need to know it's not 3DS 2 or Wii 3.It's a New Nintendo system. Frankly I expect the new name will be dire as they haven't named a console properly in years, though at least the Gamecube was self explanitory.

With the NX in general, I remember a few years back there was this neo geo system which allowed you to play it as a portable when you removed it from the docking/charging bay, and ran on the tv full screen once docked. It was cheap garbage and quickly discontinued but the general concept was solid. This seems like a good opportunity to take that sort of concept and do it right.




Yep, thats the one. Something like that would be excellent I think. I do feel sorry for Nintendo, their library blows the competition out of the water on Wii U, it's the 3rd party problem thats doing the most harm...that and a lot of people hate the controller. With a 3DS sized library added to that for NX and a controller that isn't the size and weight of a childs torso, they'd really be a force to be reckoned with on the handheld and console fronts.



The thing is though, something like this is not going to be as fast as a PS4 or XB1... even if it first launches in 2017.

 

PS4 & Xbox One can use like 110watts when their playing.

I have a really hard time imagineing anything you can carry around being able to use that much power.

A year or two longer wont just magically make something that today uses 110watts next year use 30watts.

 

The good news is Wii U is made on 40nm chips.

At 14nm with FinFETs, the power consumption should be like half or less than the Wii U's.

 

I can imagine a handheld consol in 2017 that is about as powerfull as the Wii U.



I posted this in another website and pretty much fits the topic so...


Something crossed my mind today after reading the Q&A.

We all know that the NX talk isn't new, that Nintendo already talked about its new consoles early 2014.
The question is, why did Nintendo, at the press conference with DeNA, said "dedicated gaming device" and not "dedicated gaming devices"? Why singular and not in plural if everyone already expected that?
And they still used that expression in singular form during the lates Investor's meeting.

Iwata's reply to a NX question:
"Your question also included the "current notion of thinking about home consoles and handheld devices." When it comes to how dedicated game systems are being played, the situations have become rather different, especially between Japan and overseas. Since we are always thinking about how to create a new platform that will be accepted by as many people around the world as possible, we would like to offer to them "a dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept" by taking into consideration various factors, including the playing environments that differ by country. This is all that I can confirm today."

Remember how he also mentioned how he wanted to change how HW is sold to consumers?
Then, what if, Nintendo really is just making one platform that will come alive through different type of HW?
Iwata already mentioned that he would like to increase the form factors, how he sees both handheld and home consoles for next gen, as brother and sister.

This could very well mean that the HW will execute the brand new concept Nintendo has for its HW but Nintendo could also release variants of the same HW ala Steam Machines/mobile devices or simply provide na alternative solution depending on the market.

If this is true it actually goes in line with AMD's statement of a 2016 deal for something that goes beyond gaming.


More and more, i'm convinced that NX isn't this or that HW, but it's actually a way to play their games. And i wouldn't be surprised if we saw some deals to incorporate NX into stuff like TV, Blu-ray players, cable providers, etc.



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RealGamingExpert said:

I hope you will understand that if you expect us to discuss NX during the upcoming E3 show, you will just end up being disappointed.”

NX being displayed at E3 2015 confirmed.



DélioPT said:

More and more, i'm convinced that NX isn't this or that HW, but it's actually a way to play their games. And i wouldn't be surprised if we saw some deals to incorporate NX into stuff like TV, Blu-ray players, cable providers, etc.

So you think Nintendo NX, is a streaming service? that can be used on more or less anything.

Hasnt he already come out and said it was a "device" and thus it cant be a streaming service?



DélioPT said:
I posted this in another website and pretty much fits the topic so...


Something crossed my mind today after reading the Q&A.

We all know that the NX talk isn't new, that Nintendo already talked about its new consoles early 2014.
The question is, why did Nintendo, at the press conference with DeNA, said "dedicated gaming device" and not "dedicated gaming devices"? Why singular and not in plural if everyone already expected that?
And they still used that expression in singular form during the lates Investor's meeting.


Remember how he also mentioned how he wanted to change how HW is sold to consumers?
Then, what if, Nintendo really is just making one platform that will come alive through different type of HW?
Iwata already mentioned that he would like to increase the form factors, how he sees both handheld and home consoles for next gen, as brother and sister.

This could very well mean that the HW will execute the brand new concept Nintendo has for its HW but Nintendo could also release variants of the same HW ala Steam Machines/mobile devices or simply provide na alternative solution depending on the market.

If this is true it actually goes in line with AMD's statement of a 2016 deal for something that goes beyond gaming.


More and more, i'm convinced that NX isn't this or that HW, but it's actually a way to play their games. And i wouldn't be surprised if we saw some deals to incorporate NX into stuff like TV, Blu-ray players, cable providers, etc.

You have put into words what has been floating around my head since I first heard about the concept of the NX.

The HW is what interest me most, obviously. I like the idea of different types of hardware - like steamboxes. 

I think the NX is the final marriage of the Nintendo Handheld and console into one device. The Wii U was a poor attempt but none the less it was a test run. Experiences gained should be a major factor.

Whatever it is they come up with, if it ain't powerful enough they might as well not bother. The days of the underpowered console is over. Neither developers nor consumers care for weak consoles.



JRPGfan said:
DélioPT said:

More and more, i'm convinced that NX isn't this or that HW, but it's actually a way to play their games. And i wouldn't be surprised if we saw some deals to incorporate NX into stuff like TV, Blu-ray players, cable providers, etc.

So you think Nintendo NX, is a streaming service? that can be used on more or less anything.

Hasnt he already come out and said it was a "device" and thus it cant be a streaming service?

What i am saying - and is basically what Iwata has been saying since he started talking about account systems - is that the platform is not the HW anymore. It's the games; the account with which you take your games with.

The way you play them, the actual HW, will vary.
As in, you could be faced with the choice between a mid-range console or a High-end console; you could be offered the option of having a Handheld or a Handheld plus a connection to a TV to bring your games to a big screen; you could have the option where Nintendo games can be streamed into a device for an only digital console and pay a monthly fee or yearly subscription; you could have the VC integrated into TVs, Blu-ray players or those boxes that provide TV (can't remember the name!).

The above shows that they want, or intend to, adapt to the market's desires. If the market doesn't want to pay for one type of device or is ready for something more, than why not offer?
They have already started branching out of their own HW (not for the big games, of course), so, there's nothing really stoping them from taking other steps.

 

justinian said:
DélioPT said:

You have put into words what has been floating around my head since I first heard about the concept of the NX.

The HW is what interest me most, obviously. I like the idea of different types of hardware - like steamboxes. 

I think the NX is the final marriage of the Nintendo Handheld and console into one device. The Wii U was a poor attempt but none the less it was a test run. Experiences gained should be a major factor.

Whatever it is they come up with, if it ain't powerful enough they might as well not bother. The days of the underpowered console is over. Neither developers nor consumers care for weak consoles.

I wasn't talking about NX becoming a single device (Iwata already discarded that option).

I'm talking more about choice in how you play your games (see my answer above). Because that's what i am reading from all Iwata's comments so far.
And if you look at how you play console games, it really is a brand new concept.



JRPGfan said:
DélioPT said:

More and more, i'm convinced that NX isn't this or that HW, but it's actually a way to play their games. And i wouldn't be surprised if we saw some deals to incorporate NX into stuff like TV, Blu-ray players, cable providers, etc.

So you think Nintendo NX, is a streaming service? that can be used on more or less anything.

Hasnt he already come out and said it was a "device" and thus it cant be a streaming service?

What i am saying - and is basically what Iwata has been saying since he started talking about account systems - is that the platform is not the HW anymore. It's the games; the account with which you take your games with.

The way you play them, the actual HW, will vary.
As in, you could be faced with the choice between a mid-range console or a High-end console; you could be offered the option of having a Handheld or a Handheld plus a connection to a TV to bring your games to a big screen; you could have the option where Nintendo games can be streamed into a device for an only digital console and pay a monthly fee or yearly subscription; you could have the VC integrated into TVs, Blu-ray players or those boxes that provide TV (can't remember the name!).

The above shows that they want, or intend to, adapt to the market's desires. If the market doesn't want to pay for one type of device or is ready for something more, than why not offer?
They have already started branching out of their own HW (not for the big games, of course), so, there's nothing really stoping them from taking other steps.

 

justinian said:
DélioPT said:

You have put into words what has been floating around my head since I first heard about the concept of the NX.

The HW is what interest me most, obviously. I like the idea of different types of hardware - like steamboxes. 

I think the NX is the final marriage of the Nintendo Handheld and console into one device. The Wii U was a poor attempt but none the less it was a test run. Experiences gained should be a major factor.

Whatever it is they come up with, if it ain't powerful enough they might as well not bother. The days of the underpowered console is over. Neither developers nor consumers care for weak consoles.

I wasn't talking about NX becoming a single device (Iwata already discarded that option).

I'm talking more about choice in how you play your games (see my answer above). Because that's what i am reading from all Iwata's comments so far.
And if you look at how you play console games, it really is a brand new concept.