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Add Poll: Which game will sell better, Splatoon or Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Splatoon. 380 52.85%
 
Xenoblade Chronicles X. 258 35.88%
 
Tie. 37 5.15%
 
Neither. People is saving... 44 6.12%
 
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outlawauron on 04 May 2015
Nuvendil said:
outlawauron said:

Bayonetta is the same category as God of War, Devil may Cry, Ninja Gaiden, etc (and I would hope that people realize that Bayonetta was popularized because the creator of DMC was behind it). They're not all identical, but definitely are the same type of game. Xenoblade is a JRPG. Those have a narrower market and only 3 franchises sell all that well.


A JRPG in name, but has most of the earmarks if a western RPG, character models not withstanding.  It's open world, it's SciFi, the combat is closely related to systems popular in the west, the setting isn't Japanese I culture centric, the game has a player made main protagonist.  All these things help improve its potential appeal in the west.  The JRPG genre's defining trait being the country of origin makes it a bit hazy in terms of judging the selling potential of the whole genre.  IMO,XCX has the *potential* to sell quite well in the west.  It is not a guarantee, but it has the necessary traits to appeal to a large number of people who would not be interested  other RPGs.

 

Also, those franchises you listed are the biggest character action franchises by far, yet even of those only two have done really well.  GoW peaked with 3 at 4.77mil, DMC back on the PS2 with almost 3mil (been much lower since), but Ninja Gaiden struggles to reach 1mil, having only broken that threshold three times.  The character action genre is about the same in makeup as the JRPG genre:  a small to medium size with a few standout big sellers.  Only the Character Action standouts are smaller than the JRPG standouts.

XCX's combat is nothing like anything a WRPG and it's closest comparisons are other JRPGs. It's got mech suits and has been inspired a lot by popular mecha shows. A player created character isn't a Western or Japanese characteristic. Whether it appeals more to the West or not, I do think it's a reach.



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Nuvendil on 04 May 2015
outlawauron said:
Nuvendil said:


A JRPG in name, but has most of the earmarks if a western RPG, character models not withstanding.  It's open world, it's SciFi, the combat is closely related to systems popular in the west, the setting isn't Japanese I culture centric, the game has a player made main protagonist.  All these things help improve its potential appeal in the west.  The JRPG genre's defining trait being the country of origin makes it a bit hazy in terms of judging the selling potential of the whole genre.  IMO,XCX has the *potential* to sell quite well in the west.  It is not a guarantee, but it has the necessary traits to appeal to a large number of people who would not be interested  other RPGs.

 

Also, those franchises you listed are the biggest character action franchises by far, yet even of those only two have done really well.  GoW peaked with 3 at 4.77mil, DMC back on the PS2 with almost 3mil (been much lower since), but Ninja Gaiden struggles to reach 1mil, having only broken that threshold three times.  The character action genre is about the same in makeup as the JRPG genre:  a small to medium size with a few standout big sellers.  Only the Character Action standouts are smaller than the JRPG standouts.

XCX's combat is nothing like anything a WRPG and it's closest comparisons are other JRPGs. It's got mech suits and has been inspired a lot by popular mecha shows. A player created character isn't a Western or Japanese characteristic. Whether it appeals more to the West or not, I do think it's a reach.

Custom characters are a very popular thing in the west, imo.  Dragon Age and especially Elder Scrolls have made it a big thing.  It is not a distinctly western RPG aspect, but it is a popular feature in them right now.  There are RPGs in the west that use a similar real time combat system, a number in fact.  Obviously, you have your MMOs, including the largest.  Dragon Age: Origins used a system akin to this, though with its own quirks that leaned it towards tactical.  The traditional perception of JRPGs is turn based, which XCX most definitely is not.  As for mech suits, giant robots are kinda universally popular right now, I think that's easy enough to see.  Titanfall didn't get hamstrung by the fact that it had mecha suits. 

Now if you disagree that these aspects help, that's your opinion.  I'm not making predictions, only speculating on market potential and I think XCX has it.  Whether that potential is fulfilled or not is up to Nintendo.



Darwinianevolution on 06 May 2015

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Wow, I can't believe opinions are THAT split. It's amazing.



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Areym on 06 May 2015

Xenoblade takes the cake. It's what i would buy, day 1, if i had a Wii U.



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gergroy on 06 May 2015

I think some peoples expectations for splatoon are WAY too high. Just being a shooter doesn't give you mainstream appeal or high sales and splatoon barely qualifies as a shooter. Honestly, the content in this game looks lacking and the multiplayer is very limited, especially for a shooter.

Personally, my expectations for splatoon right now is that it is going to get savaged by reviewers, probably 6-7 meta at best, and have sales in line with W101. If it does better I will be pleasantly surprised, but everything about this game that I have seen just looks like a indie game that they are trying to push into a full retail package...



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z101 on 06 May 2015
gergroy said:

Personally, my expectations for splatoon right now is that it is going to get savaged by reviewers, probably 6-7 meta at best, and have sales in line with W101. If it does better I will be pleasantly surprised, but everything about this game that I have seen just looks like a indie game that they are trying to push into a full retail package...


Have you read some if the previews? Even big gaming sites praised the game to heaven and back. Surely a 9+ game.



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gergroy on 06 May 2015
z101 said:
gergroy said:

Personally, my expectations for splatoon right now is that it is going to get savaged by reviewers, probably 6-7 meta at best, and have sales in line with W101. If it does better I will be pleasantly surprised, but everything about this game that I have seen just looks like a indie game that they are trying to push into a full retail package...


Have you read some if the previews? Even big gaming sites praised the game to heaven and back. Surely a 9+ game.

previews are often positive, that doesn't really mean anything.  The praise for this game has hardly been what I would call "to heaven and back".  You see a lot of descriptions like it was fun to play, and it's cute, stuff like that in previews.  However, I see this game getting savaged in reviews because it is primarily geared towards online play and Nintendo has obviously gimped its online features.  No voice chat, only 4v4, this is a game that will lose its fun factor rather quickly, at least from what I can see.  It doesn't seem to have a huge amount of content.  I don't see it cracking 8 on the meta, but we obviously see that game differently, so we will see what happens when it launches.  



Lonely_Dolphin on 06 May 2015
gergroy said:
z101 said:


Have you read some if the previews? Even big gaming sites praised the game to heaven and back. Surely a 9+ game.

previews are often positive, that doesn't really mean anything.  The praise for this game has hardly been what I would call "to heaven and back".  You see a lot of descriptions like it was fun to play, and it's cute, stuff like that in previews.  However, I see this game getting savaged in reviews because it is primarily geared towards online play and Nintendo has obviously gimped its online features.  No voice chat, only 4v4, this is a game that will lose its fun factor rather quickly, at least from what I can see.  It doesn't seem to have a huge amount of content.  I don't see it cracking 8 on the meta, but we obviously see that game differently, so we will see what happens when it launches.  

Mario Kart 8 got by with even less content.



Faust on 06 May 2015
Einsam_Delphin said:
gergroy said:

previews are often positive, that doesn't really mean anything.  The praise for this game has hardly been what I would call "to heaven and back".  You see a lot of descriptions like it was fun to play, and it's cute, stuff like that in previews.  However, I see this game getting savaged in reviews because it is primarily geared towards online play and Nintendo has obviously gimped its online features.  No voice chat, only 4v4, this is a game that will lose its fun factor rather quickly, at least from what I can see.  It doesn't seem to have a huge amount of content.  I don't see it cracking 8 on the meta, but we obviously see that game differently, so we will see what happens when it launches.  

Mario Kart 8 got by with even less content.

how can you tell?



yvanjean on 06 May 2015
Mummelmann said:
I think this one is fairly obvious, at least to me; Xenoblade will sell more, more marketable, traditional and with a bigger potential audience following since the last release which sold decently.
I just don't see a proper market for Splatoon, it could end up as a slightly more popular shooter version of W101.


I would disaggree... Xenoblade is a RPG and doesn't cater to the younger casual market. Splatoon has a much bigger potential audience. I think Splatton will outsell Xenoblade by at least a 3-1 ratio.