Except that the Saturn was very expensive AND hard to program for. It was also a 2d focused console at the start of the 3d age. I see third parties making their games across N64 and Saturn. without cgi, many games would fit on a N64 cartridge anyway.

so what you saying is that cds got a lot cheaper in just 11 days?   the saturn wasnt so much more expensive, it came with a bundled game, and games were realy expensive in that time.

and sega had the better games, they just were run by idiots, the saturn launch was realy a mess.

and sony appealed to casuals, not just core gamers, the PR actions of Sony to make gaming cool were realy succesfull.

There wasn't any backstabing. And why would an acessory influence a future console's name?

"I disagree wholeheartedly. The CD is what won the day for PS1. That was the single biggest factor in Sony winning. Developers would not have wanted to work with Nintendo and their extremerly limited, overly expensive format. 

And remember, the N64 was there. They could have easily just made games for it instead of the PS1 but they didn't because of the two reasons I mentioned above. "

You only listed one reason and it's not even a reason. If capcom managed to put RE2 on a N64 cartridge (cgi included), the majority of games would fit those cartridges if they didn't have cgi/non engine cutsneces. This wasn't about sony offering a better option, just a different option at a time third parties were pissed at nintendo.

Do you really have to come with a bad excuse when you beat the competitors by 160M vs 24M vs 21M? It's not even competition, it's a direct onslaught. Any excuse for PS1 beating competition by 100M vs 33M vs 8M? Or PS4 beating competition by 21M vs 12 vs 9M?

From the pattern, we could only say that maybe the Wii got lucky, since it's the only one that isn't on the pattern. Stop downplaying a company only because it isn't your favorite one. Next stop will be claiming that Windows, the iPhone or Samsung TVs are irrelevant.

ok..

let me hit you with a history lesson.

5:35 if you want to see the nintendo part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDk7l73iRX4#t=50

"Changing their conrollers every console gen and making the same kind of games?"

Nintendo makes the same kind of games? go ahead and prove it. And their controllers bring something extra without taking away what already exists.

"It's apparent with their consoles not selling. "

Wii, ds, 3ds and wii u. only wii u isn't selling much.

"Sony and MS are both trying to push consoles and gaming beyond what it's been for the last 15 years or so. True all in one entertainment boxes with VR/AR tech. "

"all in one entertainment boxes" have nothing to do with gaming. VR isn't new and isn't a part of their consoles.

The games sony and ms develop aren't pushing gaming. Most are even moving away from gaming.

"playing mario with a gimicky motion controller."

Such comments aren't gonna help your cause, you know.

Because when Resi 1 was released, they didn't have enough space for it. Easy, isn't it? And Capcom really squeezed Resi2 in a massive cartridge to keep the FMVs. I don't remember exactly but I believe there was also more FMVs in Resi1 than in 2.

From Wiki:

The Nintendo 64 version of Resident Evil 2 differs most from the other releases is the first of very few games released for the console to have FMVs despite the limited storage space on the cartridge. Over the course of twelve months and with a budget of $1 million,^[72] Resident Evil 2 was ported to the console by a staff of about 20 employees from Capcom Production Studio 3, Angel Studios and Factor 5.^[1][73] This version offers features that were not included on any other system, such as alternate costumes, the ability to adjust the degree of violence and to change the blood color, a randomizer to place items differently during each playthrough, and a more responsive first-person control scheme.^[11][73][74] Additionally, the port features 16 new in-game documents known as the "Ex Files",^[11][74] written by Tetsuro Oyama.^[52] Hidden throughout the four scenarios, they reveal new information about the series' lore and connect the story of Resident Evil 2 to those of the other installments.^[11][74] The Nintendo 64 version adjusts its display resolution depending on the number of polygonal models currently on screen, and supports the console's Expansion Pak accessory for a maximum resolution of 640×480 during gameplay.^[75][76] Other visual enhancements include smoother character animations and sharper, perspective-corrected textures for the 3D models.^[75] The music of the Nintendo 64 version utilizes Dolby Surround, and was converted by Chris Hülsbeck, Rudolf Stember and Thomas Engel.^[73] The team reworked the sound set from the ground up to provide each instrument with a higher sample rate than on the PlayStation, thus resulting in higher-quality music.^[77] Some features from the other enhanced ports based on the Dual Shock Ver. do not appear in the Nintendo 64 version, such as the "Extreme Battle" minigame.^[78]

People saying MS would have entered the business without Sony paving the way have no idea what they are talking about. An industry is only appealing if it is very widespread or starting to boom, and the gaming industry was none of these in the time Sony came along. Only the Game Boy sold in large numbers, the SNES didn't even sell 50 million or the Genesis and the Sega Saturn just ridiculous.

What people fail to see is that we have to thank MS also for driving forward the industry also, because with the 360 it became a great competitor, it made Sony scared and made the PS3 better and the whole previous gen much better. It is the natural way of things, because when things are done well then things improve all around. Like the PS4 now selling so much, it is because Sony did things right. 250 million consoles between PS1 and PS2 are nothing that can be so easily replicated by another hypothetical competitor.

What is the sense of people expecting that someone will always come along to make everything better? Nintendo saved the industry, Sony drove the industry a lot forward, MS helped a lot, Smartphones made gaming truly truly mainstream. Those people did that, there would be no guarantee that someone else would come along. It is like saying if there would be no Einstein, we would still have the same breakthroughs just because magically someone would come along and do the same. No one would come along, or maybe they would, there is no certainty. So let's all thank all the companies that did something for the industry well so that we can have amazing experiences like Bloodborne now.

the wii was a lot more lucky than the PS.  it was a bold move and they got very lucky.   and the wii is totaly on the pattern, ust not the one you try to see.  the wii went straight for the casuals, with a hugh Hype campaign and massive PR, just like sony did with ps1,2 and 4.

PR is selling consoles to casuals, that should be known by now...

and Samsung TV are totaly Irrelevant. they are okay quality and cheap, that sales them. they dont have better or unique Tech.

some other company culd fill he void without any problems if samsung went away or never entere the stage...