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Eddie_Raja said:
generic-user-1 said:
torok said:
generic-user-1 said:
Sega saturn would have sold alot better. and sega wouldnt have been so broke.
the PS got lucky and the saturn didnt, thats all. sony didnt do much for this succes, they were there when first nintendo fucked it up and than sega fucked it up.
the games that pushed the PS the hardest would have been made anyway.


PS got lucky? Saturn was a terrible hardware project, while N64 was simply "average". And claiming that Sony only managed to do an impact because the competitor fucked up is absurd. With PS1, they outsold their competitor combined by 2:1. With PS2, they did it by 3:1. With PS4, they are almost beating then combined. It takes a lot more than luck to reach these kind of dominant results.

The first sentence is simply obvious. The TuboGrafx-16 would have sold much better to if there wasn't an SNES and Genesis on the market. Saturn was beaten not because of bad luck, but because it was more expensive, weaker, didn't had a Sonic game, complicated to develop for, hard to cut manufacturing costs, etc. Add that to the fact that it was almost a mockering of all the people that bought 32X and Sega CD and you get why Sega went down. As much as I am a Sega fan, I know that they simply didn't do anything right for almost 5 years before quiting the console business.

why did the PS win? Cds and 3rd party support. the saturn had cd and would have had 3rd party support if sony wouldnt have entered the market. sony hadnt any 1st party killer apps, the tech wasnt better or cheaper than the rest. sony was just at the right place at the right time and didnt made stupid mistakes. 

sure the gaming market would be different with sega and nintendo at the top and many others that try to make a good console but it wouldnt be much smaller, and it would be alot stronger and not in a crisis like todays gaming industrie(the 3rd party developer are bleeding a lot of money)


LOL why did PS win?  It's obvious:

-CD's were too expensive when the Saturn released, whereas the PS1 was still priced as an average console.

-Sony had TONS of killer apps like Crash, Spyro, MGS, FF7, and GT.

-CD's were WAY cheaper than cartridges to produce (Like $1 vs $30).  It's no wonder why Sony got better 3rd party support.

-Sony appealed to people of ALL ages, not just kids.

 

Saying the industry would be stronger without them is pure conjectgure.  There is no evidence to support this.

so what you saying is that cds got a lot cheaper in just 11 days?   the saturn wasnt so much more expensive, it came with a bundled game, and games were realy expensive in that time.

and sega had the better games, they just were run by idiots, the saturn launch was realy a mess.

and sony appealed to casuals, not just core gamers, the PR actions of Sony to make gaming cool were realy succesfull.