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Materia-Blade on 14 April 2015
Xxain said:
Materia-Blade said:

Tales of graces was japan only for the wii version, and sales were hindered because the game had to be recalled. If it wasn't for that, it would have sold much more. The ps3 version had a worldwide release. Now let's say tales of graces on wii had also released in the west and got pessimistic sales that made it's global ltd reach 500k. Put those together with the ps3 version and what do we get? 1.4 million, aka more than any exclusive tales of has ever sold.

This helps proving that smaller franchises would do better by going multiplatform. if games like persona and tales of struggle to reach 800k per iteration on a single platform and they can get at least 50% more sales just for making it multiplatform, they should do it.

There is alot of assuming in that. Then you also if a game is destined to sell 1 million on a proven fanbase, but a multi plat may give it another 300k; For the development cost of adding another console, is that worth it? It may amount to a bigger sales number but profit margin? 

I didn't mention an extra 300k, but that alone already mean an extra 33%+ for a mere port. even less than that would be worth it. remember that 1 million is the exception for those games. they tend to sell 500-800k on a single platform.

And no, I'm not assuming much. the wii had another tales of, tales of symphonia 2: dawn of the new world. it sold 500k worldwide and the japanese sales were basically equal to tales of graces on wii. considering that dotnw is much inferior than graces and graces got the recall problem, it is very safe to say that graces would have sold a minimum of 500k worldwide. probably 600-700k without the buggy mess that caused the recall.



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TheGoldenBoy on 14 April 2015
Materia-Blade said:
Xxain said:

These are low quality Famitsu scans. It is also not what version this, considering tri-Ace is developing for PS3 then porting to PS4, this more than likely are PS3 screens. Even then they still look better, especially faces.

There's no way those scans are from the ps3 version, unless they are bullshots or are hiding many details.

On GAF they said the PS3 is the main platform and the PS4 version is a port (like Persona 5), so the scans are probably from the PS3 version unless specified otherwise.



Materia-Blade on 14 April 2015
outlawauron said:
Materia-Blade said:

It's a great example for MY point. I don't recall any tales of being multiplatform. the closest was tales of graces, wich even with it's buggy wii version that had to be recalled, showed that being multiplatform = a lot more sales than being exclusive. Oh. Historically, the tales of series does similar numbers on nintendo and sony systems.

I read it as exclusive to PS = a lot more sales. They weren't released at the same time, so combining their sales has so many logical holes you can't do it.

I think you meant exclusive to PS = a lot LESS sales, and about the same as nintendo exclusive.



Materia-Blade on 14 April 2015
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:

It only released in Japan on the Wii. Interestingly though, Tales of Graces F + Tales of Graces sold about as much as Tales of Xillia. So that kind of invalidates the argument? 

No, you compare Xillia to Graces. Xillia 2 to Graces. Zestiria to Graces.

In Japan, the series has always sold better on Playstation platforms. That is fact.

Worldwide it always sold similarly. And even japan barely has a difference. That's normal on a low selling franchise.



PotentHerbs on 14 April 2015

Is it out by the end of this year?



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sc94597 on 14 April 2015
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:

It only released in Japan on the Wii. Interestingly though, Tales of Graces F + Tales of Graces sold about as much as Tales of Xillia. So that kind of invalidates the argument? 

No, you compare Xillia to Graces. Xillia 2 to Graces. Zestiria to Graces.

In Japan, the series has always sold better on Playstation platforms. That is fact.

I thought the discussion was multiplat vs. (PS) exclusive, not Nintendo exclusive vs. PS exclusive. 



PotentHerbs on 14 April 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
PotentHerbs said:
Is it out by the end of this year?

I think someone said earlier they were only 30% done on it so that seems unlikely.

2016 is already stacked!!



OttoniBastos on 14 April 2015

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Insidb on 14 April 2015

Awesome, with a capital A.



Aeolus451 on 14 April 2015

This is why I like sony so much. I love JRPG's.