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PS4 is awesome! X1 is garbage! 190 52.20%
 
X1 is awesome! PS4 is garbage! 27 7.42%
 
they're both GREAT! 94 25.82%
 
they both SUCK! 53 14.56%
 
Total:364

To me, it's like watching a competition between sports teams. Both sides have their fans that will follow them through thick and thin. Games can have an emotional impact on a person, and the console they are playing on, delivered that experience to them. I think that's where brand loyalty comes from, and thus, the attachment to a hunk of plastic.

It's really all about the experiences that they have, and sometimes, they believe these amazing experiences are only available on the platform they chose. And in some cases, that's true. But everyone has different tastes and the experience is always going to be different for everyone. So the reason we see these console wars, and it's just people defending/promoting their platform of choice, because it's what they love. And sometimes, when love is in the mix, people can react irrationally and compulsively when the thing they are passionate about is under attack in some way.



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It is actually very simple: brand loyalty.

You know how a Sony Xperia or Samsung Galaxy might be better than the iPhone, but they won't change their tastes? That's it.

I have played PSone, PS2, PS3 so my next move is PS4. When you talk about brands, there are other things beside specs and games, but a personality. You see, Xbox One started trying to kill indies, force online 24h, sports and tv all the time, selling Kinect like it's an awesome thing when we couldn't care less... There is no way I can trust Microsoft because that is reeeeeally far from videogames. They burned themselves for me so I have no interest.



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RubberWhistleHistle said:
mornelithe said:

Disagree, there's absolutely zero sense in lumping PS4 + X1 together.  What exactly does nintendo offer that's different?  Playstation and Xbox get family friendly games, PS and Xbox have motion control, PS controller has touch sensitive controller.  So, I disagree with that statement.  If anything, Xbox and Sony are different from Nintendo because they'll actually get mature AND family friendly games consistently.

The divide is pretty much yours and whoever really cares about this idiocy, honestly.  I play the games I enjoy, on the platforms I prefer, if other people choose differently, that's fine and it's to be expected.  Everyone has different tastes and I don't feel threatened when those tastes to exactly align with my own.

the ps4 and xbox one share the same library with a few exclusives on the side. there is great sense in lumping them together. there is nothing substantial that differentiates them. 

at bolded: dude youre making my point. lol. saying theyre different from nintendo isnt a rebuttal to me saying nintendo is different from them. you just lumped them together yourself. because you did that, i know that you can see what im saying. 

The Wii U would share the same library also, if you know, people actually wanted it.  I mean, was it so long ago that Nintendo fans were complaining about lack of 3rd party support?  And 3rd parties were pulling back because it just doesn't make fiscal sense to produce content on hardware so far behind the times, and so few are actually buying into?

And no, I'm not making your point, there are clear differences between Sony and Microsoft's content.  And nobody needs you to agree to see that (Just because you don't see it, or won't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not true).



It's not a console war. It's a brand war.

That's really it.



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snyperdud said:

To me, it's like watching a competition between sports teams. Both sides have their fans that will follow them through thick and thin. Games can have an emotional impact on a person when they're playing them, and the console they are playing on, delivered that experience to them. I think that's where brand loyalty comes from and thus the attachment to a hunk of plastic.

It's really all about the experiences that they have, and sometimes, they believe these amazing experiences are only available on the platform they chose. And in some cases, that's true. But everyone has different tastes and the experience is always going to be different for everyone. So the reason, we see these console wars are just people defending/promoting their platform of choice, because it's what they love. And sometimes, when love is in the mix, people can react irrationally and compulsively when the thing they are passionate about is under attack in some way.


well, look.. if it were like, japanese people are all pro sony, and americans were all pro microsoft, with some exceptions, then i would understand the sports teams analogy. but as it stands, i dont see where this diehard fandom about either console comes from when they offer the same exact thing.



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mornelithe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

the ps4 and xbox one share the same library with a few exclusives on the side. there is great sense in lumping them together. there is nothing substantial that differentiates them. 

at bolded: dude youre making my point. lol. saying theyre different from nintendo isnt a rebuttal to me saying nintendo is different from them. you just lumped them together yourself. because you did that, i know that you can see what im saying. 

The Wii U would share the same library also, if you know, people actually wanted it.  I mean, was it so long ago that Nintendo fans were complaining about lack of 3rd party support?  And 3rd parties were pulling back because it just doesn't make fiscal sense to produce content on hardware so far behind the times, and so few are actually buying into?

And no, I'm not making your point, there are clear differences between Sony and Microsoft's content.  And nobody needs you to agree to see that (Just because you don't see it, or won't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not true).

your first paragraph is a different argument that im not really interested in getting into because i already know youre going to disagree no matter what i say because you have already positioned yourself in a way that isnt going to allow you to retract any previous statements that you have already made. 

and yes, you did make my point. just because you refuse to actually think about what i said doesnt mean im wrong about what i said. if you actually want to refute what i said, then reply with evidence of some kind about how i was wrong in how i perceived what you did.



RubberWhistleHistle said:
o_O.Q said:


lol but the ps4 and xbox one are not two completely different consoles? anyway i'll agree with you for a moment and say that they are

 

the main games for both the wii and the wii u ( smash, kart, super mario etc etc etc ) are very similar as they are merely iterations of each other

according to your argument this means that the wii and wii u are the same console

 

  why don't you stand by your argument in this situation?


because.. thats not my argument.. at all. no seriously, its not my argument, so you can chuck that notion out the window, and dont suggest that it is ever again.

all you have to do is look at the specs and see that the wii u and the wii are completely different consoles that are built from the ground up completely differently. for fucks sake, look at the controllers and how the games for each console are meant to be played. it's miles apart. look at the parts inside a ps4 and an x1.. theyre PCs and they are EXTREMELY similar hardware wise. and on the games side of things, they literally have the same library. your argument about smash and mario kart is completely nonsensical and i honestly have no idea where youre pulling that from.

 

"for fucks sake, look at the controllers"

 

the controllers are not the same the dualshock 4 has a touchpad for example while the xbox has rumble triggers

 

"how the games for each console are meant to be played"

 

wii u games for the most part do not play differently mario kart, smash, super mario etc all play pretty mush the same with the exception that you can play offscreen... 


" they literally have the same library"

 

i currently have transister, infamous and tlou since when could i play any of those xbox?

 

"they literally have the same library. your argument about smash and mario kart is completely nonsensical"

 lol the irony here amazes me



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People are stupid.

Its the general answer for most things wrong with our world

Why is there war in country X?
Why is product X so overpriced?
Why does device X die for no reason (planned obscolescence)
Why is coke/fanta/Pepsi etc not clear but has food coloring that results in yellow teeth?

General answer for all of this. People are stupud.



mornelithe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

the ps4 and xbox one share the same library with a few exclusives on the side. there is great sense in lumping them together. there is nothing substantial that differentiates them. 

at bolded: dude youre making my point. lol. saying theyre different from nintendo isnt a rebuttal to me saying nintendo is different from them. you just lumped them together yourself. because you did that, i know that you can see what im saying. 

The Wii U would share the same library also, if you know, people actually wanted it.  I mean, was it so long ago that Nintendo fans were complaining about lack of 3rd party support?  And 3rd parties were pulling back because it just doesn't make fiscal sense to produce content on hardware so far behind the times, and so few are actually buying into?

And no, I'm not making your point, there are clear differences between Sony and Microsoft's content.  And nobody needs you to agree to see that (Just because you don't see it, or won't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not true).

Yeah, i don't really see how them sharing a lot of games makes them the identical... The majority of their libraries might be the same, but that's a virtue of having so much 3rd party support, not the result of a lack of their own present and future exclusive content.

On top of that, i personally expect them to both end the generation with more exclusive content than the WiiU (for various reason). That would add an interesting dynamic to this debate :p