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PS4 is awesome! X1 is garbage! 190 52.20%
 
X1 is awesome! PS4 is garbage! 27 7.42%
 
they're both GREAT! 94 25.82%
 
they both SUCK! 53 14.56%
 
Total:364
o_O.Q on 09 April 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
o_O.Q said:

" They do the same things and get all the same games. The only thing that differentiates the two are exclusives"

wrong if that was the case no one would care about one over the other, but the fact that they do shows that there are significant differences between the 2 with regards to their main feature

i thnk yoiu can read the comments by other users in this thread that can show you how there exists this war in peoples minds besides there being any real differences between them.

so lets see according to your silly reductionist claim its fair for me to say that because the main games for wii u right now are mario kart, smash etc that the wii u is the same as the wii?

 

or would that be silly?



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RubberWhistleHistle on 09 April 2015
o_O.Q said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

i thnk yoiu can read the comments by other users in this thread that can show you how there exists this war in peoples minds besides there being any real differences between them.

so lets see according to your silly reductionist claim its fair for me to say that because the main games for wii u right now are mario kart, smash etc that the wii u is the same as the wii?

 

or would that be silly?

that would be ridiculous. those are two completely different consoles.. ANYBODY can see that. 



mornelithe on 09 April 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
mornelithe said:
Well, the reasoning for the console war in general is because people want to justify their purchases, and want to tell you that you're an idiot for choosing differently. It's also something the media likes to leverage web traffic, via click-bait/inflammatory articles designed to troll fan-bases (which is also supported by extremely weak moderation in the comments section, which allows giant mud slinging contests to erupt...we've all seen them).

But, PS4 and X1? There's no war there. Maybe at some point in the future there will be, but right now it's more of a massacre (sales-wise, strictly speaking).


it's a massacre when it is PS4 + X1 vs Wii U, which if you ask me, is the real console war. PS4 and X1, take your pick because theyre on the same side. They do the same thing and get the same kinds of games. The Wii U, on the other hand, actually offers things that are different. So these are the two sides, the two options, that consumers have. If you choose a ps4 or x1, youre choosing something that is on the same side. if you choose wii u, you are choosing something that is on the opposite side.This is the divide that is in this generation.

Disagree, there's absolutely zero sense in lumping PS4 + X1 together.  What exactly does nintendo offer that's different?  Playstation and Xbox get family friendly games, PS and Xbox have motion control, PS controller has touch sensitive controller.  So, I disagree with that statement.  If anything, Xbox and Sony are different from Nintendo because they'll actually get mature AND family friendly games consistently.

The divide is pretty much yours and whoever really cares about this idiocy, honestly.  I play the games I enjoy, on the platforms I prefer, if other people choose differently, that's fine and it's to be expected.  Everyone has different tastes and I don't feel threatened when those tastes don't exactly align with my own.



Serious_frusting on 09 April 2015

I am not a fan of the xbone controller. I dont really buy 3rd party games. I tend to buy Sony games.

Me owning a xbone would make me not really buy games any more because Microsofts exclusives dont really appeal to me. Why would i want a xbone when my favourite games are

Gran Turismo
Uncharted
God of War
Metal Gear Solid (also on xbone)
Jak n Daxter
LitleBigPlanet
Mario (Nintendo only)
Zelda (Nintedo only)
the last of us
Fable (xbone sometimes pc)
Total War (pc)
Sims (PC)
Final Fantasy (also on xbone)
Killzone
inFamous
Mortal Kombat (also on xbone)
Street Fighter



Nobody's perfect. I aint nobody!!!

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jlmurph2 on 09 April 2015
Migfighter said:
kinisking said:
Migfighter said:
Because xbone fanboys are like man u fanboys, pure scum

That's a very ban worthy comment f. Y. I. 

Ot:I understand why theyres a war, but not why people hate the other console. There both close enough that you'd enjoy either of them tbh. 


FYI, lick me! Xbone fanboy!

^^ this is why



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o_O.Q on 09 April 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
o_O.Q said:

so lets see according to your silly reductionist claim its fair for me to say that because the main games for wii u right now are mario kart, smash etc that the wii u is the same as the wii?

 

or would that be silly?

that would be ridiculous. those are two completely different consoles.. ANYBODY can see that. 


lol but the ps4 and xbox one are not two completely different consoles? anyway i'll agree with you for a moment and say that they are not

 

the main games for both the wii and the wii u ( smash, kart, super mario etc etc etc ) are very similar as they are merely iterations of each other

according to your argument this means that the wii and wii u are the same console

 

  why don't you stand by your argument in this situation?



RubberWhistleHistle on 09 April 2015
mornelithe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:


it's a massacre when it is PS4 + X1 vs Wii U, which if you ask me, is the real console war. PS4 and X1, take your pick because theyre on the same side. They do the same thing and get the same kinds of games. The Wii U, on the other hand, actually offers things that are different. So these are the two sides, the two options, that consumers have. If you choose a ps4 or x1, youre choosing something that is on the same side. if you choose wii u, you are choosing something that is on the opposite side.This is the divide that is in this generation.

Disagree, there's absolutely zero sense in lumping PS4 + X1 together.  What exactly does nintendo offer that's different?  Playstation and Xbox get family friendly games, PS and Xbox have motion control, PS controller has touch sensitive controller.  So, I disagree with that statement.  If anything, Xbox and Sony are different from Nintendo because they'll actually get mature AND family friendly games consistently.

The divide is pretty much yours and whoever really cares about this idiocy, honestly.  I play the games I enjoy, on the platforms I prefer, if other people choose differently, that's fine and it's to be expected.  Everyone has different tastes and I don't feel threatened when those tastes to exactly align with my own.

the ps4 and xbox one share the same library with a few exclusives on the side. there is great sense in lumping them together. there is nothing substantial that differentiates them. 

at bolded: dude youre making my point. lol. saying theyre different from nintendo isnt a rebuttal to me saying nintendo is different from them. you just lumped them together yourself. because you did that, i know that you can see what im saying. 



Ouroboros24 on 09 April 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:

hey guys, IM BACK again. I cant seem to participate in this site for more than two days at a time, but im going to try again.

Anyways, I think we can all pretty much agree that the hot topic in gaming these days is WHICH CONSOLE IS BETTER?!?! PS4 or X1? My question is.. why? I am 26 years old and have been a gamer my entire life, I own about 1500 physical copies of video games, I have at least heard of almost every game released for every major console, and even with all this background, I genuinely have no idea what this war is all about. These two consoles are the same damn machine, what is there to dislike about one that you cant say about the other? 

Let me give a short example, here. If you were to approach your every day pop culture gamer, and tell them, "eh, the PS4 really doesn't do a whole lot for me. Can't really get into it :/" We all know the response you would get. This gamer would, of course, ask you the question, "oh, so you're more into the xbox one camp?" 

You see, this response is what you would get 99% of the time (trust me, I have experience with this), but why would ANYONE assume that if you don't like the PS4 you must like the X1 besides the fact that there is this ridiculous fucking "war" that is happening between them. If yout ake away any notion of a war that is happening, you will see that if you don't like the PS4, you're not going to like the X1 either. They do the same things and get all the same games. The only thing that differentiates the two are exclusives, in which case, you would say something like, "PS4's exclusives don't really do it for me." Do you see the difference? You would attribute your distaste to the exclusives and not the console itself because to say you don't like it as a console would be to say you don't like the X1 as a console as well because they're, well, the same. 

So this is my contention: if you are a die hard XBOX ONE fan, then I am telling you right now that you like the PS4 as well. And vice versa. Don't give me this bullshit about how you love the X1 so much and you're a huge fan and then sit there and tell me that you hate the PS4. If you are one of these people, I would love to hear your explanation for what is so different about these two consoles that you are able to absolutely love one of them and hate the other. 

EDIT: just so there is not any confusion, I want to make clear (yes, it is the unpopular opinion) that I am all for console wars; i think they are fun. But only when the consoles that are warring are actually different. I don't see any fun in two consoles that are identical warring. I dont see the point and it's completely ridiculous.

Really, you don't understand that the Xbox are the LA Lakers and ps4 are the Boston Celtics.  PS4 are the Oakland Raiders and Xbox are the Cleveland Packers. Manny Vs Mayweather, Kramer VS Kramer, Goku Vs Superman, Batman Vs Superman, DC vs Marvel, ........................

Not rocket science guys. 



RubberWhistleHistle on 09 April 2015
o_O.Q said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

that would be ridiculous. those are two completely different consoles.. ANYBODY can see that. 


lol but the ps4 and xbox one are not two completely different consoles? anyway i'll agree with you for a moment and say that they are

 

the main games for both the wii and the wii u ( smash, kart, super mario etc etc etc ) are very similar as they are merely iterations of each other

according to your argument this means that the wii and wii u are the same console

 

  why don't you stand by your argument in this situation?


because.. thats not my argument.. at all. no seriously, its not my argument, so you can chuck that notion out the window, and dont suggest that it is ever again.

all you have to do is look at the specs and see that the wii u and the wii are completely different consoles that are built from the ground up completely differently. for fucks sake, look at the controllers and how the games for each console are meant to be played. it's miles apart. look at the parts inside a ps4 and an x1.. theyre PCs and they are EXTREMELY similar hardware wise. and on the games side of things, they literally have the same library. your argument about smash and mario kart is completely nonsensical and i honestly have no idea where youre pulling that from.



RubberWhistleHistle on 09 April 2015
Ouroboros24 said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

hey guys, IM BACK again. I cant seem to participate in this site for more than two days at a time, but im going to try again.

Anyways, I think we can all pretty much agree that the hot topic in gaming these days is WHICH CONSOLE IS BETTER?!?! PS4 or X1? My question is.. why? I am 26 years old and have been a gamer my entire life, I own about 1500 physical copies of video games, I have at least heard of almost every game released for every major console, and even with all this background, I genuinely have no idea what this war is all about. These two consoles are the same damn machine, what is there to dislike about one that you cant say about the other? 

Let me give a short example, here. If you were to approach your every day pop culture gamer, and tell them, "eh, the PS4 really doesn't do a whole lot for me. Can't really get into it :/" We all know the response you would get. This gamer would, of course, ask you the question, "oh, so you're more into the xbox one camp?" 

You see, this response is what you would get 99% of the time (trust me, I have experience with this), but why would ANYONE assume that if you don't like the PS4 you must like the X1 besides the fact that there is this ridiculous fucking "war" that is happening between them. If yout ake away any notion of a war that is happening, you will see that if you don't like the PS4, you're not going to like the X1 either. They do the same things and get all the same games. The only thing that differentiates the two are exclusives, in which case, you would say something like, "PS4's exclusives don't really do it for me." Do you see the difference? You would attribute your distaste to the exclusives and not the console itself because to say you don't like it as a console would be to say you don't like the X1 as a console as well because they're, well, the same. 

So this is my contention: if you are a die hard XBOX ONE fan, then I am telling you right now that you like the PS4 as well. And vice versa. Don't give me this bullshit about how you love the X1 so much and you're a huge fan and then sit there and tell me that you hate the PS4. If you are one of these people, I would love to hear your explanation for what is so different about these two consoles that you are able to absolutely love one of them and hate the other. 

EDIT: just so there is not any confusion, I want to make clear (yes, it is the unpopular opinion) that I am all for console wars; i think they are fun. But only when the consoles that are warring are actually different. I don't see any fun in two consoles that are identical warring. I dont see the point and it's completely ridiculous.

Really, you don't understand that the Xbox are the LA Lakers and ps4 are the Boston Celtics.  PS4 are the Oakland Raiders and Xbox are the Cleveland Packers. Manny Vs Mayweather, Kramer VS Kramer, Goku Vs Superman, Batman Vs Superman, DC vs Marvel, ........................

Not rocket science guys. 


well to be fair.. there are huge differences between the bolded ones lol