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Kami said:
alternine said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crIDgk01HeA

Again I know people dislike this guy but he brings up valid points. Very sketchy.


I thought he was right from the beginning, the market is adpating and leaving Nintendo behind as we speak. I've had many great experiences with them but they need to change if they want to be relevant.


Its more like "The Lemmings are jumping of a cliff and leave the Nintendo lemming behind"



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zorg1000 said:
Dunban67 said:

They were losing money before the Wii U was released so the higher priced console was not the primary reason for loses-  if they had sold more Wi U s they would have lot more money earlier i its lifetime but made it back on better economies of scale and higher software sales-   right now they are not selling many consoles but the software sales for the Wii U are even worse-   

I agree if they "do better" next time it will surley help but the overwhelming trend has been a losing one-

If Nintenod had faith in the Wii u earlier in its life cycle they would ahve lowered the price more  and sooner that they did

they could still lower it (and may now thaat they are ina new fiscal year) but they just don t seem to have much faith in the console, therefore the market hasn t either

my point is they need to make some fundamental changes in how they approach the next gen,  they need to be willing to invest enough in their own products and they need to start making better longer term decisons and stop the short term menaility-      

Iwata has been telling Investors for several years that they will be making "Nintendo like" profits "next year"   but they have not materialized, nor wil they next year-   


They lost money before Wii U launched because 3DS was sold at a loss from August 2011 to August 2012. I didn't say price had anything to do with losses, I said it had to do with their devices not selling as many units.

ok got it-  and thanks for the discussion



Dunban67 said:
zorg1000 said:


They lost money before Wii U launched because 3DS was sold at a loss from August 2011 to August 2012. I didn't say price had anything to do with losses, I said it had to do with their devices not selling as many units.

ok got it-  and thanks for the discussion

No problem I enjoy discussing these things, in another thread I mentioned how I think next generation, Nintendo has the potential to make alot of money.

Dedicated gaming-if they can get back to the baseline I mentioned earlier of 100/500 million for hardware/software with average annual profits of $1 billion than this division is very healthy.

Nintendo is also expanding in many other areas as well.

Amiibo figures/cards, Quality of Life, Mobile games/apps, IP licensing (films/series). If all these things take off than its very possible that we see Nintendo return to DS/Wii-era profits which was something like $15 billion over the course of 5 years.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Dunban67 said:

ok got it-  and thanks for the discussion

No problem I enjoy discussing these things, in another thread I mentioned how I think next generation, Nintendo has the potential to make alot of money.

Dedicated gaming-if they can get back to the baseline I mentioned earlier of 100/500 million for hardware/software with average annual profits of $1 billion than this division is very healthy.

Nintendo is also expanding in many other areas as well.

Amiibo figures/cards, Quality of Life, Mobile games/apps, IP licensing (films/series). If all these things take off than its very possible that we see Nintendo return to DS/Wii-era profits which was something like $15 billion over the course of 5 years.

I agree they hold the cards-  they just need to play them correctly- easier said than done i know



JazzB1987 said:
Kami said:


I thought he was right from the beginning, the market is adpating and leaving Nintendo behind as we speak. I've had many great experiences with them but they need to change if they want to be relevant.


Its more like "The Lemmings are jumping of a cliff and leave the Nintendo lemming behind"


Thats not the best analogy... 



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I am not too familiar with the "Let's Play" videos. A quick search make it seem like it is mostly Minecraft and GTAV that people want to watch in big numbers. What is "Let's Play" really about?



I hope Nintendo doesn't change anything. Do whatever it is they want.



Angry Joe knew what he was doing when he posted the video in the first place. Look at all this publicity he's getting.



TheSting said:
I hope Nintendo doesn't change anything. Do whatever it is they want.


Lol That should not be your mindset as a consumer. We cant let these multi million dollar companys " Do whatever they want"



"Say what you want about Americans but we understand Capitalism.You buy yourself a product and you Get What You Pay For."  

- Max Payne 3

alternine said:
TheSting said:
I hope Nintendo doesn't change anything. Do whatever it is they want.


Lol That should not be your mindset as a consumer. We cant let these multi million dollar companys " Do whatever they want"


Can't we say that about Youtubers as well?