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Yes, it will be on both Wii U and NX 56 38.62%
 
No, it will only be on Wii U 80 55.17%
 
No, it will only be on NX 9 6.21%
 
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Soundwave said:
Goodnightmoon said:

They are releasing this game on 2016 for WiiU only.

But in the future you will be able to play it on NX too. They can even make a Sony and release a remastered version for NX, or maybe is just the console having backwards compatibility.


If they're going to release it on NX at some point anyway, then what's the logic for waiting until later?

So they can sell fewer copies all around? 

Why not utilize it as a launch title, it will get 10x more press and attention that way just like Twilight Princess certainly did, it will also buy Nintendo invaluable time to make sure the NX launch is stacked. 

I'm sorry but "yeah but Nintendo promised us and we're super special Wii Uers, Nintendo owes us!" is not a logical or rational answer. Lets remove the hysteria and emotion out of this and look at it from a logical POV and the answer becomes fairly obvious. 


I do, I´m not being emotional, but Zelda is coming next year, NX not. They only talked about the console because if they only said that they were going to do mobile games without talking about a New X console on the future.... then all the people would be talking about nintendo don´t doing consoles anymore.



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Goodnightmoon said:
Soundwave said:


If they're going to release it on NX at some point anyway, then what's the logic for waiting until later?

So they can sell fewer copies all around? 

Why not utilize it as a launch title, it will get 10x more press and attention that way just like Twilight Princess certainly did, it will also buy Nintendo invaluable time to make sure the NX launch is stacked. 

I'm sorry but "yeah but Nintendo promised us and we're super special Wii Uers, Nintendo owes us!" is not a logical or rational answer. Lets remove the hysteria and emotion out of this and look at it from a logical POV and the answer becomes fairly obvious. 


I do, I´m not being emotional, but Zelda is coming next year, NX not. They only talked about the console because if they only said that they were going to do mobile games without talking about a New X console on the future.... then all the people would be talking about nintendo don´t doing consoles anymore.


You don't know NX is a console. 

And you don't know if NX is coming out next year or not. 



Captain_Yuri said:

Yes... TP was on the GC but everyone knows that GC's primary Zelda was WW... I dont get whats so hard to see about this... If you exclude ports, both the GC and the wii will have their own Zeldas... But the wiiU won't. It will be missing a Zelda made specifically for it period. This isn't even very arguable

And yes there are... Firstly, they announced it during a mobile press conference to ensure the audience that they aren't getting out of the dedicated gaming business. Most people would be worried about Nintendo's handheld division because that is what is a) More directly competing against mobile than their console and b) The games are far more closer to mobile than on the console.

Then you have the games for the wiiU coming out vs the 3ds... The 3ds in terms of games shows very big signs of it getting a successor than the wiiU is. Yes, the console is selling like shit but so did the gamecube compared to the n64 and that didn't stop Nintendo from releasing those games and I doubt it they will start now. And its not like the software sales on the wiiU is dead since high profile games continue to sell pretty highly on the wiiU. If they release a new console, that will be a very non-Nintendo-like thing to do because Nintendo usually has fuck all in terms of game releases on the year that they are announcing a new platform for the respective division... Nintendo had SS for the wii and that was basically it before the wiiU launched and not this many games where as the 3ds has maybe 2 games at best this year

And what "Fusion" concept? Its all speculation at best... Iwata even gave two examples, one was apple and the other was Android..

"To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with varous form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms. Apple has a common platform called iOS. Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. The point is, Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples. Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment."


It doesn't matter what "everyone knows." What Nintendo, as a company, knows is that TP was a GCN Zelda game that was pushed back to come out on the Wii. It's not suddenly "less" of a GCN game. WW suddenly isn't "more" of a GCN game. WW's existance doesn't change anything. It doesn't exist in a vacuum. That's what isn't arguable.

That's PR speak. If Nintendo was merely conserned about people thinking they were exclusively going mobile, they would have simply stated that "Just as a reminder, we would like to reiterate that we are still primerily focused on creating video game hardware and creating software for that hardware. We would further like to reiterate that Nintendo is always in the process planning new hardware for the next generation of Nintendo systems, and this announcement has done nothing but increase our passion in this reguard," and be done with it.

They announced the code name and they confirmed that they'd talk about it next year. You don't do that unless you're preparing people for a reveal and release in the relatively near future. They weren't "only worried" about anything other than the fact that flat out saying that the Wii U would be dead by holiday 2016 would completely halt its sales by holiday 2015. It has absolutely nothing to do with handhelds, because they are still doing well. The Wii U is the one breaking negative sales records - Not the 3DS.

The console being replace does not mean the Wii U won't get games. The 3DS, even with it's "showing signs of a successor" got more relevant first party games in the past six months than the Wii U. It's getting another in a few days. If the 3DS is showing signs of a successor, the Wii U may as well be succeeded. We still don't know that Zelda U won't be the only relevant Wii U game in 2016, and even if it most likely isn't, the life cycle will have been so short that it would make sense for the Wii U to not have the same kind of final year drought. The GBA had 4 years too, and it's last years weren't lacking in games either.

The Apple and Android example is the Fusion "concept." Two separate sister devices using the a similar OS and being able to run the same software because they are part of the same unified platform. And considering it speculation at this point with the exensive amount things they've said on the subject basically confirming it , including the very thing you quoted, is akin to gleefully covering your ears, closing your eyes, and screaming "lalalalala" repeatedly.



Soundwave said:
O-D-C said:
I think they will release a 'remaster' with NX but not a dual launch like TP.

Why not just have it at launch in that case? 

If Last Of Us actually wasn't going to be finished until November 2013, you bet your ass Sony would've just dual released it and used it as a launch title. 

Because I dont think NX will release in 2016, 2017 for that one.



O-D-C said:
Soundwave said:

Why not just have it at launch in that case? 

If Last Of Us actually wasn't going to be finished until November 2013, you bet your ass Sony would've just dual released it and used it as a launch title. 

Because I dont think NX will release in 2016, 2017 for that one.


OK well lets say for the sake of arguement that NX does release in some form (even if its only handheld) in 2016. 

Lets also assume the system is powerful enough to run the new Zelda game. 

What's the logical, rational reasoning in that scenario for NX not to have this Zelda game?

So that Nintendo can sell fewer copies? Make less money? So that fewer consumers can enjoy the game? 



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The next Nintendo console is going to be more powerful than Wii U and won't be our next year. So obvious no.



Goodnightmoon said:

They are releasing this game on 2016 for WiiU only.

But in the future you will be able to play it on NX too. They can even make a Sony and release a remastered version for NX, or maybe is just the console having backwards compatibility.


Sorry for the derail, but how is releasing a remastered version "making a Sony"? Sony has so far released one retail remastered game...



SjOne said:
The next Nintendo console is going to be more powerful than Wii U and won't be our next year. So obvious no.


My PC graphics card from five years ago is more powerful than a Wii U. There's nothing magical about having hardware better than a Wii U. 

And I think there is more than a good chance the 3DS successor (which is ONE PART of the NX hardware line) is coming next year. 



The funniest thing about the whole Twilight Princess situation is not that Nintendo put it on the Wii, but to add insult to injury they even delayed the GCN game further so that GCN only owners had to wait until AFTER the Wii early adopters to play it. lol.

That means the "ARGHGHGHGH! Fuck Nintendo! Fuck you, I waited for realzist non-kiddy Zelda on my GameCube since Spaceworld 2000! You PROMISED ME! YOU OWE ME! I REFUSE TO BUY A NEW SYSTEM, GAMECUEB 4 LYFE!!!!" uber-nerd actually had to sit at home and twiddle his thumbs for two extra weeks while some random, clueless soccer mom was playing the game for 10 minutes on her Wii before switching back to Wii Sports. 



Soundwave said:
O-D-C said:

Because I dont think NX will release in 2016, 2017 for that one.


OK well lets say for the sake of arguement that NX does release in some form (even if its only handheld) in 2016. 

Lets also assume the system is powerful enough to run the new Zelda game. 

What's the logical, rational reasoning in that scenario for NX not to have this Zelda game?

So that Nintendo can sell fewer copies? Make less money? So that fewer consumers can enjoy the game? 

If NX releases in 2016 (even as a portable) then it will likely get Zelda U, hell NX will likely get ports of most Wii U games at that point to build a strong launch lineup. I can easily see 'underperforming' games like Pikmin 3 and DKC: TF and maybe even SM3DW making the jump to NX.