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Ryudo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Question folks. What happens when you put church and state in the same room to make decisions which affect people? Discrimination. Chick Fil-A must be jumping for joy and preparing to have more locations in Indiana.  YAY for religion alienating more people that it doesnt agree with. 

http://wgntv.com/2015/03/26/indiana-governor-signs-bill-allowing-businesses-to-reject-gay-customers/


Here in Utah we just passed a bill you CAN'T discriminate when applying for a Job or housing for the LGBT. Last year gay marriage became legal. Glad my state is making progress while some continue to live 50 years ago


Thats great news! I have a friend who is a lesbian who was thinking of moving to Indiana, she just went back on that though. LOL



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sundin13 said:
thedawghousev2 said:
Wonktonodi said:

No, the question usually works well to get a person to think that some things they think are choices others make aren't actually a choice they made themselves.

For those that think they chose to be hetero, I actually hope to get a detailed answer and increase my understanding. Because I know I didn't choose what I am attracted to, the closest one could argue is when I chose to label myself as gay, since there is a lot of grey area between heterosexual and homosexual that most of us actually fit in.


i don't see why choosing which sex to be attracted can't be similar to people having different tastes in clothing, music, food, video games, or whatever

What exactly are you trying to say because I don't understand your statement.


choices and shit



S.T.A.G.E. said:
tak13 said:


What?

This is impossible as two straight men cannot feel attraction for each other,It would be a disaster on the sexual intercourse as from their nature won't be/feel stimulated and have an erection seeing each other...

Are you getting a b@n@r or being flustered seeing Adam Levine semi-nude?If yeah,you chose that?lol,hell no...

What you said is the true oversimplification...


What in the....


What?The comment was cynical,yeah...I can't put it better!:P



The_Yoda said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Social change was going to happen regardless of Martin Luther King. He just so happened to be in it in the right place at the right time. Religion helped him be a pacifist in a struggle for his human rights. Malcolm X was religious as well and was a muslim and wanted equality by any means necessary also not denying a militant approach if need be.

In the end despite where they came from they were going to social change as human beings and yes, the MAN is the sum of his parts. The religion helped him to be a pacifist. There were times when MLK wanted to be militant just like Malcolm X, but he didn't. 

As I said if you're a fan of Xmen, Magneto and Profession Xavier were created off of both of their ideologies and approach to social change. 

So did religion or it's influence play a positive role in Kings struggle?

As for the X-Men I have a few issues but it isn't a comic I'm well versed in. 

No it just influenced pacifism, same with Ghandi, but Ghandi wasn't Christian was he? it just influenced pacifism, nothing but that. He fought for social change as a man, but his religion taught him not to fight with fists. its as simple as that.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
thedawghousev2 said:


i don't see why choosing which sex to be attracted can't be similar to people having different tastes in clothing, music, food, video games, or whatever

I think the only sexual orientation that naturally gets to choose when sex they bed with are bi-sexuals. Those people have the pick of the litter man. As a straight guy it seems to me like they have all the choice in the world. I didn't choose to be heterosexual, I just am.


Exactly!



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
The_Yoda said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Social change was going to happen regardless of Martin Luther King. He just so happened to be in it in the right place at the right time. Religion helped him be a pacifist in a struggle for his human rights. Malcolm X was religious as well and was a muslim and wanted equality by any means necessary also not denying a militant approach if need be.

In the end despite where they came from they were going to social change as human beings and yes, the MAN is the sum of his parts. The religion helped him to be a pacifist. There were times when MLK wanted to be militant just like Malcolm X, but he didn't. 

As I said if you're a fan of Xmen, Magneto and Profession Xavier were created off of both of their ideologies and approach to social change. 

So did religion or it's influence play a positive role in Kings struggle?

As for the X-Men I have a few issues but it isn't a comic I'm well versed in. 

No it just influenced pacifism, same with Ghandi, but Ghandi wasn't Christian was he? it just influenced pacifism, nothing but that. He fought for social change as a man, but his religion taught him not to fight with fists. its as simple as that.

What made Ghandi stand out?



tak13 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I think the only sexual orientation that naturally gets to choose when sex they bed with are bi-sexuals. Those people have the pick of the litter man. As a straight guy it seems to me like they have all the choice in the world. I didn't choose to be heterosexual, I just am.


Exactly!


He was known for being of the major minds which caused the British to loosen their grip on India when it was being occupied. It's also said that he was a purist.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
tak13 said:


Exactly!


He was known for being of the major minds which caused the British to loosen their grip on India when it was being occupied. It's also said that he was a purist.


You replied to the wrong person!LOL:P I think that goes to yoda!:P



thedawghousev2 said:
Wonktonodi said:

No, the question usually works well to get a person to think that some things they think are choices others make aren't actually a choice they made themselves.

For those that think they chose to be hetero, I actually hope to get a detailed answer and increase my understanding. Because I know I didn't choose what I am attracted to, the closest one could argue is when I chose to label myself as gay, since there is a lot of grey area between heterosexual and homosexual that most of us actually fit in.


i don't see why choosing which sex to be attracted can't be similar to people having different tastes in clothing, music, food, video games, or whatever

so you're able to decide what tastes good? that would be so awesome, I would eat totally heathy and on the cheap if I could control what tasted good. While some things are an aquired taste. There are many more things that are not. Also are you able to choose what type of person you find attractive?  Most people  don't just like all women or all men, there are often feature and body types that some people like or don't. Would be awesome to just at will choose to like whatever.

I don't have the privalege of just choosing to like something. On the other end, I can't just choose to dislike something either. I could choose to behave in a way as if I liked ot didn't like something but that's quite different.



I am from Indiana, and oh boy let me tell you what bull s**t you are talking right now, man.