thats actually false. MS was the ones to moneyhat them which is why they even got those games as exclusives in the first place. Fact is they tried and it didnt work, those games didnt sell enough where MS wanted to continue to moneyhat and Japan devs were going to continue to support, it would make no sense for htem to do so when in their home country xbox is a non factor.

Edit: Your numbers are odd as well, why compare LO to Persona? they are not even the same type of game, but even then it actually makes LO look worse. Do you really wanna compare LO a game that released much earlier and to a much bigger audience to a PORT of a PS2 game released on handheld? Even then P4Golden did better if we throw in digital numbers which make up about an additional 15% sales.

Why not compare Tales to other Tales games? Tales games do better on PS systems despite them not being released until much later in their lives. If im a Japanese dev ya damn right i want MS to give me money cause i most likely wont make up for it in sales of the game at least not as much as i would other systems.

Even if Japanese developer care for money only, Xbox fans never care or bother with JRPG genre.  Microsoft is smarter, and will not make the same mistake anymore by not money hating   jrpg on Xbox one this time.

people act as if MS didnt try they did. There is a word for doing something over and over again expecting different results. MS isnt even in the same postion now as they were with the early years of 360

Yup agree with u, now they don't have any luxury to dictate the market, now they have to follow Sony on the market.

How does MS moneyhatt Mistwalker, if they helped Sakaguchi fiancially get the studio started? Did Mistwalker gamehatt them back?

I meant to compare Shin Megami Tensei. To me they were the same.

It's a waste of time arguing with you just by reading the last sentence.

Japanese games don't set the trend on the market, to make a manufacturer deviate from their plans.

Eight gen is a year old and there will be a lot of development through out its life cycle. Let's see by the end of it who will be following who and where will Japanese game industry will be.

you missed the point. What he is saying is when MS tried they had the upper hand, sure they probably were never going to win over Japan and Europe to a lesser extent but it was fine cause they had US on lock and could have had those fans buy those JRPGs on their system, not a bad plan but it did not work. 

Now they have no upper hand anywhere. They are getting killed WW and in the US they are getting beaten. That has nothing to do with trends it is what it is, yes the gen is still young but even 360 stopped getting those kinds of games after a couple of years on the market i dont see no reason why that would change now. 

Of course it's a huge mistake. More money and fans is fucking terrible for a company like SquareEnix.

Lol i am not talking about Japanese developer, i am talking about Microsot don't have any lead in this generation, so even money hating is not enough because Sony beside leading on sales, they also have the budget to money hating any ip. So what i  mean is, Xbox one is different with Xbox 360, it's like PS2 is different then PS3 interms  potential game library.

That's kinda the point of his thread. It's going to take a lot of time and resources to get it working with the PS4 version, so it's not longer very cheap to port.