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ReimTime said:
KLAMarine said:

Hey, don't be so quick to slam the CD-i games, they have lead to some amazing videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKywK-RtY9U

This is my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmIAM-hnEjQ

It's because of these poops, the cd-i games no longer make me cringe. Thanks goodness for them.



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KLAMarine said:
ReimTime said:
KLAMarine said:

Hey, don't be so quick to slam the CD-i games, they have lead to some amazing videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKywK-RtY9U

This is my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmIAM-hnEjQ

It's because of these poops, the cd-i games no longer make me cringe. Thanks goodness for them.


Yea they just make me laugh now lol



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I figured as much, but good to hear further confirmation from Iwata nonetheless.



the_dengle said:
Lawlight said:
So, where are the people who were claiming that DeNa will be doing the development and Nintendo would just be lending their IPs?

Hello, I'm right here. And even though I don't think you're legitimately interested, I will share my thoughts on the matter at the moment for the sake of establishing consistency.

1, I'm glad the games have a better chance of actually being good. Although Nintendo has certainly released stinkers before (see Pokemon Shuffle), I have more confidence in their ability and drive to make high quality and reasonably priced software than I have in any mobile developer I've sampled.

2, The great thing about mobile devices (as opposed to game consoles or gaming PCs) is that most gamers already have one. Nintendo wants to make exclusive games for PS4 or XBO? Shit, now I may have to buy one of those. Add another $400 to my hardware budget. Nintendo wants to make exclusive games for iOS/Android? Alright, whatever, I have an iPod. Regardless of how compelling their offerings are, it won't affect my hardware expenses. This is even good for PS4/XBO owners who don't want to buy Nintendo hardware! Sweet, more people enjoying Nintendo games, I've no problem with that.

3, Unlike many console gamers I'm not allergic to mobile games. The vast majority of them aren't very good, but there are a few decent games here and there which show that the format is capable of delivering enjoyable experiences.

4, Let's not kid ourselves: the EAD teams, Retro, Monolith Soft, etc probably aren't going to touch this platform. They'll stay focused on Nintendo's dedicated hardware, because Nintendo still wants to sell that rather than send it out to die. EAD Tokyo likes to mess around with stuff, it's always possible they'll make a smaller game on the side for mobile, but it would be merely a side project.

5, This does mean that some Nintendo studios will be working on mobile apps rather than 3DS/Wii U/NX software. It's impossible to know at this juncture just how that will affect Nintendo's first-party output on their hardware. Hopefully Nintendo will expand to make up for the differences, but I feel like many Nintendo fans have been saying hopefully they will expand for years now, so I won't hold my breath. I hope this doesn't mean the end of the bite-sized eShop games Nintendo has been experimenting with, like Pushmo and the upcoming Box Boy. Ultimately, as I said before, these types of games being released on iOS rather than on 3DS would have no effect on me personally, because I already own a mobile device, but it would be a shame to see Nintendo's talent drifting away from their platforms.

That's the catch-22 though, isn't it? You can't make good games without good developers. Every talented studio who spends their time making a game for mobile devices instead of for Nintendo platforms will be seen as a missed opportunity. Ideally, these will be games that are more appropriate for mobile than for consoles, and they will not demand large teams or long development periods from Nintendo. The plus side here is that DeNA will evidently perform upkeep on these games, keeping them updated as operating systems are revised, performing routine maintenance, and so on.

Ultimately I don't see this dramatically affecting Nintendo's output on their platforms. NX will still get 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash Bros, and whatever other franchises or new IP Nintendo feels are a good fit for the system. Maybe it won't get Flipnote Studio because EAD Tokyo opts to make some kind of Mario spin-off for mobile instead. I won't lose any sleep over it.

spemanig said:

I was thinking the same thing. They would honestly run Nintendo's IP through the mud if left to their own devices. It should be made clear that the only reason Nintendo chose them is because they were persistant in telling Nintendo that they'd let Nintendo take charge and only offer support. They are very much the bitch in this relationship, as it should be.

I'm honestly kind of put off by how overeager DeNA seems to be. I understand how excited they must be to have made this deal and to be able to discuss it, but they almost come off as leeches, gushing about how much money they're going to make from Nintendo's IP. It was a bit unsettling and it's one of the reasons I'm now glad they have very little to do with the development of these games.


1. The quality and pricing remains to be seen - I wouldn't put extreme microtransactions beyond Nintendo. They've been experimenting with that after all.

2 & 3. That's just you personally accepting this change.

4. That we know of. If the share price keeps going up, Nintendo might shift it's focus more to mobile.

I'm still curious about Nintendo's next handheld and whether this will affect it's release.



Lawlight said:
Curmudgeon said:


You'll still need 1. The phone games will be small spin offs type of  games, maybe companion games and apps to the 'main' games. 

The main titles will remain handheld/console exclusive for sure, they're not abandoning their dedicated gaming system.

Expect Pokemon shuffle, no 'true' pokemon game 


You don't know that. For all we know the main Pokemon games can a home on smartphones. It's not a game get requires intricate controls.


The wording from the transcript basically tells us that.  They are interested in selling us their propritary platforms using the games to instill the need for it. So giving the mobile market a fully functional pokemon game probally isn't in the cards. If it is Pokemon you might want to think more along the lines of the Pokewalkers they released. Where the game will access the Pokemon bank and you can build up by doing simple minigamess and maybe do a little pvp with people on your friends list. And the standalone games will be more like Pokemon Shuffle and they may use some of the more neglected IPs someone elsewhere mentioned an Advanced wars game.

I'm thinking most of the games will be playable by themselves but will have a major hook to try to get you to buy the full game elsewhere. I mentioned this elsewhere but a game where you play some of the minigames in Animal Crossing to make bells and win items that can only be used in the full game.



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zorg1000 said:
The_Yoda said:
daredevil.shark said:

Megaton. But its expected. Nintendo wants to be in control whatever is produced using their IPs.

After Cdi Zelda can you blame them?


Well its not like Nintendo hasn't outsourced their ip to other developers other than that. Capcom developed Zelda titles for Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance, Sega developed F-Zero on Gamecube, Namco developed Star Fox on Gamecube and Heavily assisted on the most recent Smash Bros, Koei-Tecmo was able to make two crossover games based on Nintendo ip, Pokemon Conquest & Hyrule Warriors so Nintendo does have a pretty good history of lending out their ip.

Capcom, Namco and Sega aren't retards in game making. Philips is. And any other potential new people could repeat that. That's all I worry about. So this keeps them in check.



i wonder if they're gonna get Sakurai in on this.



Good. I can't wait to see what Koizumi or Aonuma can do with a mobile game.



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Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

1. The quality and pricing remains to be seen - I wouldn't put extreme microtransactions beyond Nintendo. They've been experimenting with that after all.

2 & 3. That's just you personally accepting this change.

4. That we know of. If the share price keeps going up, Nintendo might shift it's focus more to mobile.

I'm still curious about Nintendo's next handheld and whether this will affect it's release.

I am impressed by your repeated demonstrations of how clueless you are regarding the recent Nintendo announcements.

Nah, it's just you refusing to accept the path that Nintendo is taking.



RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

Nah, it's just you refusing to accept the path that Nintendo is taking.


I think this says it all.