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Then the people who complaint are the minority among minority that live in the old gen and agreed they should have step back and let the new gen decide which is good or not.

In the end games sales and hardware sales prove the complaint is one side only.



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ReimTime said:
JWeinCom said:
Gamers sent a message loud and clear that they're willing to buy a console without great games, and pay money for uprezzed versions of old games. The market gets what the market wants.


I'd argue that the real problem is pre-ordering, which sends the message that gamers are willing to pay for something that isn't even finished yet. Devs can get lazy and release content that should have been included down the line via DLC, and releasing broken games because their pre-orders tell them that they will sell well anyway.

"Oh don't worry, we'll fix all of those glitches and add in a satisfying ending in 6 months in our 5 GB patch! Only 19.99."

FFS, it's not like stores are always short on stock on launch day in this day and age. And I mean who the fack cares that you get a new special edition hat for your character if you pre-order? And then after someone gets burnt once by pre-ordering from a certain company, they pre-order the next game and get fucked again. I only advocate pre-ordering when: you are importing a game, the game is in short supply (see: Atlus), you want a collectors edition, or you know damn well the product will be whole and working on arrival (see: Nintendo). Maybe there would be "great console games" if they weren't half baked on release.

I whole heartedly agree with both of you. The industry in its current state is broken, yet it shows so much promise. Why do brilliant games by Atlus or Intelligent Systems barely make their money back but Activision can shit out a Skylanders or CoD every single year and rake in billions?

I know this isn't just a Gen 8 issue, but it feels like we're in a rut. People keep buying the same things every year and it's become apparent to developers that they no longer need to put out complete and enjoyable games in order to be successful. People who preorder blindly are only enabling this behavior; I just wish consumers would take a stand for once. They did it when Microsoft tried to force DRM into the XBO, so why aren't broken games or Day 1 DLC just as big of issues? I don't understand.



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Too much complaining about lack of great games and I'm complaining that I can't play all the games that I want to play. Right now I'm playing dying light which is better than what metacritic score said, then I will have boodborne which is a game that sink a lot of hours follow by The witcher 3 Then in September we have MGS PP and many more that I forgot about. I'm completely fine with the current gen console.



I've bought around 10 games so far (just pre-ordered FF Type-0), and I am buying bloodborne and Dragon Age Inquistion soon. I will probably get Until Dawn and Batman Arkham Knight this summer as well. I have never bought this many games in such quick succession, this early on in the gen before (and it's not even counting all of the PS+ games)

All in all, I'm pretty good.



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I whole heartedly agree with both of you. The industry in its current state is broken, yet it shows so much promise. Why do brilliant games by Atlus or Intelligent Systems barely make their money back but Activision can shit out a Skylanders or CoD every single year and rake in billions?

I know this isn't just a Gen 8 issue, but it feels like we're in a rut. People keep buying the same things every year and it's become apparent to developers that they no longer need to put out complete and enjoyable games in order to be successful. People who preorder blindly are only enabling this behavior; I just wish consumers would take a stand for once. They did it when Microsoft tried to force DRM into the XBO, so why aren't broken games or Day 1 DLC just as big of issues? I don't understand.


To 1st question:

CoD or Skylanders appeal to a more broad audience than say, Persona does, and the majority of people who buy a CoD every year know exactly what they are getting; they just don't care. A forum like this filled with gaming enthusiasts makes it seem like we are many, but in reality we are the vocal minority in the large scheme of things and don't speak for everyone. Rich companies don't build games for the minority. Ironically, Activision is a huge company that can take a loss, yet they are the ones playing it safe and sticking to a proven formula; and why would they change? They also have the money to market the shit out of their products, which garners recognition.

To 2nd question:

DRM was a big issue because it pissed off everyone. Microsoft's intentions struck a nerve with consumers, a nerve still tender from the NSA scandals. Day 1 DLC and broken games don't piss everyone off. It is starting to become a larger issue than it was a year ago, and companies are making an effort into solving the problem (see: The Witcher 3; delayed until perfect, all DLC is free) but a lot of individuals are still uninformed consumers. To explain their mentality: It seems easy to pay for a game now instead of later, or to pay incrementally in lead up to a release, and that appeals to many people; as well as the notion that one is guaranteed a copy. What they don't realize is that pre-ordering is like voting for a political representative. You are betting on the promise of what is to come, paying for something that does not exist yet, and in reality do not exactly know what you will receive.



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The lack of great JRPGs can do this to a gen. Gotta wait until they arrive, and then hope to somebody's god that they are very memorable and worth playing.



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Dragon Age: Inquisition?
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor?
Far Cry 4?



What about PC games?Where are?



so gamespot is saying its a console thing? Despite the fact that the PC and Consoles pretty much share all the AAA games now. If the console versions are delayed so is the PC version. So why not just calling it where are all the great games? Why just bashing consoles instead gaming in general in their title?



I think the biggest culprit here is because Sony/Microsoft decided that backwards compatibility was a thing of the past. During the first few years of the new console cycle I would always fill my gaps with cheap last gen games that I could still play on my new console. I still got GBA games when I had a DS, I still got GC games when I got my Wii, heck I got PS1 games when there was a ton to play on PS2 but since those games were cheap and I could play them on PS2 it was an easy buy. I'm glad the Wii U has BC (and good games) because I still have a huge backlog for my Wii (playing MH4U a lot though.) I think people just forget how good BC is until they start asking where are the games.



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