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Expected?

Yeah 196 70.25%
 
no 83 29.75%
 
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Kerotan said:


I meant I don't take joy from the reactions in the thread good or bad.  I do take joy from the ps4 selling so well however 


Exactly.



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Kerotan said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Wait, tell me again how a niche game in the west (MH) and a remaster (MM) is suppose to be giant system sellers for a system with a slight upgrade from its predecessor with no notable exclusives at its launch? And don't forget that MH and MM both can be played on the original 3ds...

Monster hunter highly rated pretty much equalled the orders sales.  MM apparently one of the best games ever sold a shit load.  TLOUR moved a lot of ps4s and it's a re release.  

 

The 3DS had a new model.  Yes only 2 weeks but months of pre orders are included.  It's also twice as cheap and the ps4 is still at launch price.  

 

This is one hell of an achievement and definitely worth mentioning. 

Monster Hunter being highly rated doesn't mean much cause the series doesn't sell much at all in the west... And MM sold a shit load cause of the high userbase... TLOUR sold a lot of ps4s cause there wasn't many people with ps4's to begin with...

The 3ds also has a 50+ million install base and n3ds launched with games that doesn't require the n3ds and therefore, there is no reason to buy a n3ds... And 2 weeks vs 2 months... Lets be honest, even with months (its actually less than one month cause the Nintendo Direct for n3ds in the west was January 14) of "pre-orders," thats just nonsense logic

And its not an achievement at all when ur comparing 2 weeks vs 2 months of a handheld thats going on its 5th year with no high profile exclusives to sell the system... The ps4 has a low install base comparatively and its the best console that you can get in the 8th gen so of course its going to sell well against a system with high installbase thats going on its 5th year with no notable exclusives to sell the upgrade...



                  

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Skullwaker said:
Kerotan said:
The 3DS is out in America for less than 4 years.  The ps4 is out for less than 2. The 3DS had MM which was huge plus monster hunter.  It also had a new model that sold really well.  This is quite the achievement from the ps4. Remember its still at launch price.  

Either way, that's a huge difference. You're comparing a handheld that's past its peak to one that likely hasn't peaked yet. How do you not see the flaw in that?

Yeah, it had a remake of the least popular 3D Zelda of all time and a game that is entirely niche in the west. Meanwhile the PS4 had a huge, mainstream shooter that appeals to its audience quite well. I'm not saying it's not an achievement that the PS4 is selling so well, but your attempts to downplay the 3DS are futile and appear to be out of spite. You can praise Sony and the PS4 without putting the 3DS down.


You'd think it's an unfair comparison because it's half the price,  ps4 still at launch price and it's still not hit it's peak as you say.  

On top of that the 3ds just had the equivalent of a ps4 slim and 2 very big titles.  

As for the rest of your comment claiming this is out of spite.  I've said nothing but positive things for the 3ds sales in February.  

There are threads comparing many things,  even the psvita vs the Wii U. Why can I not do the same?  

 



Platina said:
Congrats, again, PS4!

Good to see that the 3DS is doing well, also!


Thank you for that very fair comment!  

 

And yes I agree both are selling very well. 



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Kerotan said:
You'd think it's an unfair comparison because it's half the price,  ps4 still at launch price and it's still not hit it's peak as you say.  

On top of that the 3ds just had the equivalent of a ps4 slim and 2 very big titles.  

As for the rest of your comment claiming this is out of spite.  I've said nothing but positive things for the 3ds sales in February.  

There are threads comparing many things,  even the psvita vs the Wii U. Why can I not do the same?  

 

And nothing to sell that "PS4 slim" equivalent, either. Your positive comments are like a high five and then a back hand across the face. Saying "Good job, 3DS! But the almighty PS4 beat you!" isn't a compliment. 

For the record, I don't even like that Vita vs Wii U thread. So that is irrelevant to me.



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Skullwaker said:
Kerotan said:
The 3DS is out in America for less than 4 years.  The ps4 is out for less than 2. The 3DS had MM which was huge plus monster hunter.  It also had a new model that sold really well.  This is quite the achievement from the ps4. Remember its still at launch price.  

Either way, that's a huge difference. You're comparing a handheld that's past its peak to a console that likely hasn't peaked yet. How do you not see the flaw in that?

Yeah, it had a remake of the least popular 3D Zelda of all time and a game that is entirely niche in the west. Meanwhile the PS4 had a huge, mainstream shooter that appeals to its audience quite well. I'm not saying it's not an achievement that the PS4 is selling so well, but your attempts to downplay the 3DS are futile and appear to be out of spite. You can praise Sony and the PS4 without putting the 3DS down.


Actually, since neither of them is at the peak...it could technically make perfect sense to compare them.

Say both are on a timescale that goes from 0-100, with 50 being the peak. If the PS4 is at 25, and the 3DS at 75, sales would be pretty much the same. Not saying that's the case here, but being before or after the peak makes for a totally valid comparison.

 

Also, why are you playing down MM and upselling The Order? One is a game old school Nintendo fans were really excited for and got reviewed really well, and has sold really well. The other is a cinematic shooter that got pretty mediocre reviews, and some think isn't selling as well as it was supposed to.

Not trying to downplay the 3DS, it's done very well for Nintendo and is proving that even in the age of the smartphone and mobile games, it's possible to make a sucessful handheld. But the PS4 is doing really, really well, and the 3DS is the only other console selling even close. So comparisons are going to be made.



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Normchacho said:
Actually, since neither of them is at the peak...it could technically make perfect sense to compare them.

Say both are on a timescale that goes from 0-100, with 50 being the peak. If the PS4 is at 25, and the 3DS at 75, sales would be pretty much the same. Not saying that's the case here, but being before or after the peak makes for a totally valid comparison.

 

Also, why are you playing down MM and upselling The Order? One is a game old school Nintendo fans were really excited for and got reviewed really well, and has sold really well. The other is a cinematic shooter that got pretty mediocre reviews, and some think isn't selling as well as it was supposed to.

Not trying to downplay the 3DS, it's done very well for Nintendo and is proving that even in the age of the smartphone and mobile games, it's possible to make a sucessful handheld. But the PS4 is doing really, really well, and the 3DS is the only other console selling even close. So comparisons are going to be made.

How do we know the PS4 won't peak this year, though? We don't.

I'm playing down MM because it's entirely likely that Zelda fans already owned the console due to Ocarina of Time 3D and A Link Between Worlds, so it's not like Majora's Mask 3D was meant to be some huge system seller. On the other hand, The Order was an extremely hyped game (outside of the internet) that was known for its beautiful graphics (which is what the general public mainly cares about) so it was bound to sell some systems, especially being the first big PS4 exclusive of the year. 

I agree that both are doing very well. I'm just saying this comparison wasn't necessary. This isn't a "Let's follow the sales of these consoles and see how it goes this year," it's a "See? The PS4 beat the 3DS in this small timeframe. The PS4 rocks!!" I just don't see how this thread was meant to stir up positive responses. It would've been much better with a different title, especially.



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Skullwaker said:
Kerotan said:
You'd think it's an unfair comparison because it's half the price,  ps4 still at launch price and it's still not hit it's peak as you say.  

On top of that the 3ds just had the equivalent of a ps4 slim and 2 very big titles.  

As for the rest of your comment claiming this is out of spite.  I've said nothing but positive things for the 3ds sales in February.  

There are threads comparing many things,  even the psvita vs the Wii U. Why can I not do the same?  

 

And nothing to sell that "PS4 slim" equivalent, either. Your positive comments are like a high five and then a back hand across the face. Saying "Good job, 3DS! But the almighty PS4 beat you!" isn't a compliment. 

For the record, I don't even like that Vita vs Wii U thread. So that is irrelevant to me.


Just because you see it like that doesn't mean it's true.  This is a sales site.  What is the problem with comparing sales?  



Normchacho said:
Skullwaker said:

Either way, that's a huge difference. You're comparing a handheld that's past its peak to a console that likely hasn't peaked yet. How do you not see the flaw in that?

Yeah, it had a remake of the least popular 3D Zelda of all time and a game that is entirely niche in the west. Meanwhile the PS4 had a huge, mainstream shooter that appeals to its audience quite well. I'm not saying it's not an achievement that the PS4 is selling so well, but your attempts to downplay the 3DS are futile and appear to be out of spite. You can praise Sony and the PS4 without putting the 3DS down.


Actually, since neither of them is at the peak...it could technically make perfect sense to compare them.

Say both are on a timescale that goes from 0-100, with 50 being the peak. If the PS4 is at 25, and the 3DS at 75, sales would be pretty much the same. Not saying that's the case here, but being before or after the peak makes for a totally valid comparison.

 

Also, why are you playing down MM and upselling The Order? One is a game old school Nintendo fans were really excited for and got reviewed really well, and has sold really well. The other is a cinematic shooter that got pretty mediocre reviews, and some think isn't selling as well as it was supposed to.

Not trying to downplay the 3DS, it's done very well for Nintendo and is proving that even in the age of the smartphone and mobile games, it's possible to make a sucessful handheld. But the PS4 is doing really, really well, and the 3DS is the only other console selling even close. So comparisons are going to be made.


Exactly before this thread the order was a failure and MM a massive success.  I really can't see how people are labelling me as downplaying.  I've given the 3ds the credit it deserves and I'm now comparing the sales of the top 2 systems in the biggest market after 1 got a major revision. We're on a sales sight. How is this frowned upon.