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MoHasanie on 22 February 2015

Only Nintendo has had great games this generation. Both Sony and MS haven't made any amazing exclusives. And reviewers are much more harsh this gen after being too generous last gen.



    

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generic-user-1 on 22 February 2015
fps_d0minat0r said:
generic-user-1 said:
PieToast said:

Because we live in a cheesy cyberpunk dystopia in the Internet where the over consumption of infomation has led us to communicate with memes and cynicism has become a constant theme in this generations first year so the overpopulated Internet has to talk about something even though history shows that the great and memorable games don't get released until the second or third year.

well, nintendo did release a lot of great games in the first 2 years this gen, and last gen, and in the gen before...

sony just has one studio that can make realy great games, and they couldnt bring out a game till now because they had one game realy late last gen and need time for a new one.

The difference is that most of nintendos offerings are 'been there done that' stuff, whereas sony invest in a far greater number of new IP's and software technology.

Yes not all are super successful, but most are 'great' and many are GOTY quality.... and most importantly, theres a lot of unique content the 3rd party's rarely come up with.

sony tries new ips because they dont know to handle their ips in the right way. they become overused realy fast and so they have to risk alot more than nintendo. and often its concept over gameplay, that is not a way to establish a long lasting series.

but i dont see em trying realy new things.  i would love to see them going back to trying realy new stuff. team ico musst get fundings for a new game.



fps_d0minat0r on 22 February 2015
Samus Aran said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
generic-user-1 said:
PieToast said:

Because we live in a cheesy cyberpunk dystopia in the Internet where the over consumption of infomation has led us to communicate with memes and cynicism has become a constant theme in this generations first year so the overpopulated Internet has to talk about something even though history shows that the great and memorable games don't get released until the second or third year.

well, nintendo did release a lot of great games in the first 2 years this gen, and last gen, and in the gen before...

sony just has one studio that can make realy great games, and they couldnt bring out a game till now because they had one game realy late last gen and need time for a new one.

The difference is that most of nintendos offerings are 'been there done that' stuff, whereas sony invest in a far greater number of new IP's and software technology.

Yes not all are super successful, but most are 'great' and many are GOTY quality.... and most importantly, theres a lot of unique content the 3rd party's rarely come up with.

Yeah, that's why most of the upcoming Sony games are sequels. Nintendo innovates with gameplay, you don't need new ips for that.

lol how can you even say that with a straight face.

Nintendo is always a gen behind on gameplay because they are always limited by hardware.

GT on PS1 had more gameplay elements than MK8 has on the wii U and thats how far they look like they will be in every other genre too including platforming, adventure, rpg's.

Anyway, I bet Sony will have more successful new IP's this gen than nintendo... just like they have had every gen since they entered the market.



RealGamingExpert on 22 February 2015
fps_d0minat0r said:
Samus Aran said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
generic-user-1 said:
PieToast said:

Because we live in a cheesy cyberpunk dystopia in the Internet where the over consumption of infomation has led us to communicate with memes and cynicism has become a constant theme in this generations first year so the overpopulated Internet has to talk about something even though history shows that the great and memorable games don't get released until the second or third year.

well, nintendo did release a lot of great games in the first 2 years this gen, and last gen, and in the gen before...

sony just has one studio that can make realy great games, and they couldnt bring out a game till now because they had one game realy late last gen and need time for a new one.

The difference is that most of nintendos offerings are 'been there done that' stuff, whereas sony invest in a far greater number of new IP's and software technology.

Yes not all are super successful, but most are 'great' and many are GOTY quality.... and most importantly, theres a lot of unique content the 3rd party's rarely come up with.

Yeah, that's why most of the upcoming Sony games are sequels. Nintendo innovates with gameplay, you don't need new ips for that.

lol how can you even say that with a straight face.

Nintendo is always a gen behind on gameplay because they are always limited by hardware.

GT on PS1 had more gameplay elements than MK8 has on the wii U and thats how far they look like they will be in every other genre too including platforming, adventure, rpg's.

Anyway, I bet Sony will have more successful new IP's this gen than nintendo... just like they have had every gen since they entered the market.

That totally makes sense when you don't think about it!

Don't you realise that most games are just the same reskinned shooter over and over again? You think that's innovation? You don't need new IPs for that.



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Skullwaker on 22 February 2015

I don't think Sony has ever passed Nintendo in terms of quality first-party exclusives, but they truly were a force last gen. I think right now it's a combination of reviewers being more strict and Sony just not putting their all into ensuring these games are of the highest quality.



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fps_d0minat0r on 22 February 2015
RealGamingExpert said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Samus Aran said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
generic-user-1 said:
PieToast said:

Because we live in a cheesy cyberpunk dystopia in the Internet where the over consumption of infomation has led us to communicate with memes and cynicism has become a constant theme in this generations first year so the overpopulated Internet has to talk about something even though history shows that the great and memorable games don't get released until the second or third year.

well, nintendo did release a lot of great games in the first 2 years this gen, and last gen, and in the gen before...

sony just has one studio that can make realy great games, and they couldnt bring out a game till now because they had one game realy late last gen and need time for a new one.

The difference is that most of nintendos offerings are 'been there done that' stuff, whereas sony invest in a far greater number of new IP's and software technology.

Yes not all are super successful, but most are 'great' and many are GOTY quality.... and most importantly, theres a lot of unique content the 3rd party's rarely come up with.

Yeah, that's why most of the upcoming Sony games are sequels. Nintendo innovates with gameplay, you don't need new ips for that.

lol how can you even say that with a straight face.

Nintendo is always a gen behind on gameplay because they are always limited by hardware.

GT on PS1 had more gameplay elements than MK8 has on the wii U and thats how far they look like they will be in every other genre too including platforming, adventure, rpg's.

Anyway, I bet Sony will have more successful new IP's this gen than nintendo... just like they have had every gen since they entered the market.

That totally makes sense when you don't think about it!

Don't you realise that most games are just the same reskinned shooter over and over again? You think that's innovation? You don't need new IPs for that.

Youre statement makes a lot of sense when you completely forget that everyones grandads played the same nintendo IP's driving their consoles today, 40 years ago.



platformmaster918 on 22 February 2015
arcaneguyver said:
platformmaster918 said:

yeah but my point is, as someone who normallly doesn't let length bother them (just like my girlfriend zing!), I would know that that criticism doesn't bother me.  I still do this with scored reviews but without the number more people would have to find what actually appeals to them rather than just discounting it as a 6/10 game.

What I don't get is, if a picture is worth 1000 words...and we have YouTube...why are people still bothering with written reviews? A few minutes of gameplay (not cutscenes) with commentary is way more informative for this medium, I think.

true true I enjoy gametrailers' reviews the most nowadays as they have pretty much what you're saying




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Ruler on 22 February 2015

And what happening in the MS camp? where are their exklsuives? sony just ajusts to the competition, bloodborne will soon come out and it will the first killer app regadless what the reviews say for me.

 

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RealGamingExpert on 22 February 2015
fps_d0minat0r said:

Youre statement makes a lot of sense when you completely forget that everyones grandads played the same nintendo IP's driving their consoles today, 40 years ago.

Yeah that's what I just said and everyone before. The IPs are the same, because you don't need a new IP when you do the same things anyway. Yet most shooters that get released don't offer anything new, but people get the impression that they "innovate" because of the setting or graphics or whatever. You seem to take this way too personal when there is no need for that at all.



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Wright on 22 February 2015
RealGamingExpert said:

The IPs are the same, because you don't need a new IP when you do the same things anyway.


That's like saying we don't need more sci-fi based books after Julio Verne and Isaac Asimov because they're all the same.