Zekkyou said:
He chose to save her over a chance to save the world, and killed multiple innocent people in the process (such as the surgeon). The fireflies couldn't be considered entirely good, but their intentions were. He then lied to Ellie about it, knowing that she'd have rather died if there was a chance it could help. I think that's all pretty awful.
That said, the game did leave me feeling the same way as you, which shows how good a job they did of justifying his actions. He lost his daughter to those who were supposed to protect, and spent decades surviving it a broken world that couldn't care less about him. Then, when he finally finds someone to fill to space left by what he'd lost, he's asked to give them up. Bugger the world, i'll take Ellie :p
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Ellie was taken away, Joel had no moment to say goodbye to her and Fireflies were pretty much fixated on taking her life to make a cure. What Joel did, from the main protagonist standpoint, isn't awful. It isn't evil, either. It was just his choice.
You can't say "innocent people" without big quotation marks on it because as far as we know, Joel may had killed innocent people in the past that only fought for survival (You don't get this sense because it's kill or be killed, but just like Joel, there's others with less luck). Mankind is pretty much condemned at that point. Erasing the possibility of a cure only ensures that tickers will still be around, but having a cure does not ensure that society would come back. More like power into the Fireflies hands, if you want to look at it from a crude point of view.
There's a choice to be had, and neither Joel nor Ellie had something to do with it. It was forced upon them. Thing is, Joel simply didn't agree with it; whereas Ellie couldn't say anything on the matter at that moment. Joel also forced a choice on Ellie, but she pretty much stood with him.