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Jaywood2010 on 17 February 2015

I dont know about The Order 1886 but Metal Gear Solid 4 was amazing. One of the best games last generation in my opinion.




       

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Shinobi-san on 17 February 2015
binary solo said:
Shinobi-san said:


in other words they rushed XD

Seriously though i think most reviewers i read/watch do their reviews on normal, quite frankly all reviewers should do it on normal. Easy can be far to easy, it might be the difference between 1 shot kills in the leg versus 2 shots to the head etc. that might add an hour to the game

which brings it to a grand total of 8 hours!!! :P

Not just shot positioning, but also AI. The enemy may poke their heads up to be shot less often, might position themselves more intelligent in the battle zone, have beeter aim themselves and do more damage...

Yeah doesnt sit well with me. To play on easy but then complain about length. Maybe they state in the actual review that had they played on normal it might have been X amnt of hours longer.

I still think anything under 8 hours is pretty bad for a single player only game. My ideal time for single player cinematic type games is 8 - 12. Considering that the game needs to keep you engrossed in the story for its duration...it cant be overly long.



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dane007 on 17 February 2015
Shinobi-san said:
dane007 said:
Zekkyou said:
true_fan said:
7.5 sounds too high based on the cons listed. The amount of time you spend watching the game is nearly as much time as you are playing the game, shameful.

It's shameful for a game with a strong focus on being cinematic to have a lot of cinematic? Huh.


but if you are paying 60 bucks for a game or 100 bucks in nz, you would hope to get a bit more gameplay then 4 hours right?  Being cinematic si cool, but you don't make nearly half the game cinematic. I wouldn't mind if its was 3 hour cinematic and 7 hour gameplay.

I think its very much depends on the total package or experience they have managed to deliver. I dont think its as simple as just counting hours. If the gameplay and cutscenes are seamless and done right then its fine. Afterall they scored the game a 7.5.

That being said 7 hours total playthough time is not ideal regardless. Our tolerance for short games has increased since last gen, which i think is a bad thing.


fair enough. I haven't played it yet so i can't judge it yet.. However it is disappointing to know that its only 7 hours and half of it is cutscenes and QTEs. With that said,  i will still get game as it should be entertianing enough ,plus tis eye candy with those graphics lol. Yep i agree. Games should not be  short and then be justified because its cinematic. YOu can have a cinematic gamem and still have decent length and replayability . 



the_real_dsister44 on 17 February 2015
Areym said:
mornelithe said:

Heh, funny thing, I think it was Uncharted 2 that got a 50 from a site that Metacritic allows, hah, Knack was 4 pts better than Uncharted 2, confirmed!

Now that is unbelievable! I am a bit biased regarding Knack. As average as it was, I enjoyed it (most of it anyways, about 70% of it) but those clowns at AV club (i think it was then) wouldn't know a good game if it bit them in the ass.


I checked Metacritic. It isnt believable because he is wrong



mornelithe on 17 February 2015
the_real_dsister44 said:
Areym said:

Now that is unbelievable! I am a bit biased regarding Knack. As average as it was, I enjoyed it (most of it anyways, about 70% of it) but those clowns at AV club (i think it was then) wouldn't know a good game if it bit them in the ass.


I checked Metacritic. It isnt believable because he is wrong

That's why I used the term 'I think' because I knew it was one of the Uncharted's, but wasn't sure which one.  It was Uncharted 3, and yes, they gave it a 50.



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Goodnightmoon on 17 February 2015
mornelithe said:
the_real_dsister44 said:


I checked Metacritic. It isnt believable because he is wrong

That's why I used the term 'I think' because I knew it was one of the Uncharted's, but wasn't sure which one.  It was Uncharted 3, and yes, they gave it a 50.

The explanation makes sense to me, but ok, the score is very unfair. Probably they are going to give Uncharted 4 even less.

"Two years after Thieves, Uncharted's gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they're borderline archaic."



the_real_dsister44 on 17 February 2015
mornelithe said:
the_real_dsister44 said:


I checked Metacritic. It isnt believable because he is wrong

That's why I used the term 'I think' because I knew it was one of the Uncharted's, but wasn't sure which one.  It was Uncharted 3, and yes, they gave it a 50.


Your post really confuses me sorry. First yu gave me the wrong game. Second you are comparing one outlier review to the average of another game altogether. And thirdly AV club didn't even review Knack. It makes me sad that I spent the 30 seconds to look up the "facts" around your post. =(



onionberry on 17 February 2015

So Ryse 2?



mornelithe on 17 February 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
mornelithe said:

That's why I used the term 'I think' because I knew it was one of the Uncharted's, but wasn't sure which one.  It was Uncharted 3, and yes, they gave it a 50.

The explanation makes sense to me, but ok, the score is very unfair. Probably they are going to give Uncharted 4 even less.

"Two years after Thieves, Uncharted's gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they're borderline archaic."

And they'll be laughed at just like they were beforehand.



starcraft on 17 February 2015

These days time concerns are my biggest game purchasing constraint, not cash.

But at the end of the day, even without money being an object, I just can't see myself spending $US65 or so (the cheapest you'll find this in Australia at launch) on such a short experience when longer and as good or better games are recently out and coming out.



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