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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 LTD Sales should be at least 140 Millions

Uabit on 15 February 2015

I think it's quite possible seeing that PS4 has sold more on its first year than Ps3 on its peak year... Nothing stops this train.



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Imnus on 15 February 2015
XanderXT said:
Unless the PS5 is anti consumer at launch like the PS3, I don't think so.


What was anti-consumer about the PS3?



Uabit on 15 February 2015
Imnus said:
XanderXT said:
Unless the PS5 is anti consumer at launch like the PS3, I don't think so.


What was anti-consumer about the PS3?


The 600$ launch price.



Mikmster on 15 February 2015
Uabit said:
Imnus said:


What was anti-consumer about the PS3?


The 600$ launch price.


not every one was poor, plus was to 499.



Sensui on 15 February 2015
Nate4Drake said:

Around 120M for PS4.


I was going to guess somewhere around that amount as well. 140M is a bit too much but I know it will outsell the ps3.



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Ryng on 15 February 2015

Nope. This generation don't will have legs. 2015 is the PS4 peack.

My prediction:
2013: 4,200,000 (4.2m)
2014: 14,300,000 (18.5m)
2015: 17,500,000 (36m)
2016: 16,800,000 (52.8m)
2017: 15,200,000 (68m)
2018: 13,000,000 (81m)
2019: 10,000,000 (91m)
2020: 5,000,000 (96m)
LT: little more than 100,000,000

For XBO i said:
2013: 3,000,000 (3m)
2014: 7,200,000 (10.2m)
2015: 7,600,000 (17.8m)
2016: 6,800,000 (24.6m)
2017: 4,800,000 (29.4m)
2018: 2,200,000 (31.6m)
LT: above 32,000,000



Puppyroach on 15 February 2015
binary solo said:
Puppyroach said:
Seeing as how it has started to track behind PS2 already, its clear it will not come anywhere near those amazing levels. It will not have a year at 20mn+ levels and it will drop of all faster than Gen 6 or 7. I've said it before: 80-90mn is possible.

Thgat's a bold claim. Generally speaking the peak year for a console is year 3 or 4.

DS peak year was year 4

PSP peak year was year 4

Wii Peak year was year 2

PS3 peak year was year 5

360 peak year was year 6

Average peak year for gen 7 was year 4.

Wii did 16 million in year 1 and peaked at 24 million in year 2 and did 21 million in year 3. PS4 did 14 million in year 1 (87.5% of Wii) if it manages a similar ratio for years 2 and 3 (though with a peak in year 3 rather than year 2) that means ~39 million across years 2 and 3 with year 2 probably being about 18 million and year 3 being about 21 million. One year above 20 million is very likely.

Yes but I don't think we will see that much growth YOY, simply because Sony are more interested in making profit of the PS4 than to aim for sales of 20mn+/year. PS3 is still priced quite high for a console that has essentially been replaced and as long as PS4 dominates, there is no reason to drop its price. We might see a gain this year of 10% and a more significant gain next year with a remodel, but after that it will drop off quite a bit since the market just isn't there for dedicated gaming machines like before.



Imnus on 15 February 2015
Uabit said:
Imnus said:


What was anti-consumer about the PS3?


The 600$ launch price.

Seriously you are joking, right? You're saying that selling a $850  worth console for $600, that Sony losing around $300 on every console sold, that selling for $600 a console with Backwards Compatibilty, an HDD, HDMI, free online, rechargeable controller, Blu-Ray, etc while your competition nicked And dimed consumers for everything HDD, battery charger, HD movie, etc and on top of that a monstrous unprecedented failure rate. You're seriously telling me that the anti-consumer one is the former, really are you fucking serious.

I mean stupid and financially moronic, that certainly was, but anti-consumer?



POE on 15 February 2015

The console wont reach 100 million.



Kerotan on 15 February 2015

I'm personally predicting sales between 100m - 1200.