Ali_16x said:
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I agree, but did not want to be accused of exaggerating for the sake of bias, which I certainly have towards to PS4.
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| KBG29 said: Microsoft already announced a huge feature comming to the XBO this fall. Windows 10 intergration is not something to over look. The ability to use universal apps on XBO could easily give it a major advantages over PS4. Both consoles only have 1 way to show market growth, and that is expanding functinallity. The other big thing comming to XBO is Sling TV. This is a way for XBO owners to cut the cable box completely. This again is something that can not be over looked. If Microsoft keeps working hard to get timed exclusives, build up their first party, and deliver on the games front they will be fine. Expanding the market needs to continue to be their focus. The best thing they can do is try to be more open than Sony. Keep letting any and all worth while software make its way to the system. Turn XBO into the SmartPhone of the TV, that is they way to greater success. This is true for both MS and Sony. They both have a chance to steal the home market, and use it to piggyback to mobile success. |
Market growth can also be achieved by offering better products and affordability. The Wii had it's gimicks but was also affordable right out the gate. And while market growth is important so is market share. Microsoft sought to expand the market with the Kinect and that could be said to be a big part of why they lost market share.
Cable is a dying service so it's impact on gamers will be negligible at best in my opinion.
I agree that Microsoft really needs to focus on third party but timed exclusives are generating mixed reactions from the press and gamers as people are willing in many cases to hold out. Permanant exclusives like Titanfall are essential and better yet if they don't come out on PC/Xbox 360 either.
On the last point about making the Xbox One the Smartphone of the TV may succed in the short term, but as more people get smart tv they Xbox One becomes an unecessary middle man. Speaking for myself I use my PS4 for gaming and any reason for buying an Xbox One would be the games.
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Burek said:
I just don't see the motivation for people using those apps on a home console. I mean, they have them all at a touch of a fingertip on their phone, why use them in a much more cumbersome way using a controller or even Kinect. To me it seems so much more like a hassle and an inconvenience than an advantage.
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I preffer the bigger screen for many of the above listed applications. Plus I can hook up a wireless mouse and keyboard to give me a less combersome control method. Having all of this on XBO and Windows Phone would allow you to choose which to use, and allow quicker access. If you leave the phone in the car, the bedroom, or have it charging, you can hit this kind of stuff up in two seconds, and be right back to your game, show, or whatever. No need to get up. For me the benifits of it beinging there are much greater than if it is not.
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| KBG29 said: I preffer the bigger screen for many of the above listed applications. Plus I can hook up a wireless mouse and keyboard to give me a less combersome control method. Having all of this on XBO and Windows Phone would allow you to choose which to use, and allow quicker access. If you leave the phone in the car, the bedroom, or have it charging, you can hit this kind of stuff up in two seconds, and be right back to your game, show, or whatever. No need to get up. For me the benifits of it beinging there are much greater than if it is not. |
I guess you are correct, but I don't see it being widely used. The way I look at it, all this W10 talk will serve to benefit Lumia and Surface sales much more than it will sell XBoxes. Sure, any extra sale is welcome, but I simply don't see it as a selling point. Both Lumia and Surface today have a very minor market share, and I am sure MS will push those two much much harder in order to gain ground.
It is 2015, and gaming consoles have basically only one selling point - games! It's not 2002 that people need a DVD player, or 2009 that people are willing to pay for a BluRay player. Today, you can get any other feature on phones that everybody owns, or tablets, you can get TV directly via internet without extra boxes or HDMI pass throughs, ir stream via a $39 device. Again, any extra feature a console offers is a great bonus, but if someone has no interest in console gaming, they will never buy a console for those other features.
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Hopefully more Japanese exclusives so I have a reason to buy one. Oh yeah, new Conker and Banjo!
As far as I'm concerned, there has been no narrowing gap as of yet, Microsoft would need to be EXTREMELY aggressive with pricing and games to turn the tide.
| Tachikoma said: id like to point out that while the xbox one did outsell the ps4 in the us*, worldwide it never actually sold higher per month, so the gap has been increasing constantly. its unlikely at this point that they can do anything to close the gap, just varying rates of slowing the gaps increase. |
*for 2 months, but for 2014 PS4 sold the most by slightly over 400K.
Xb one will be $299, permanently, for this holiday, and because the US price can't be too far below the international price it means substantial price cuts for all other countries. The question is, does PS4 go to $299 or does it only got to $349 (and comparable price drops internationally)? PS3 started off way more expensive than PS4, but PS3 dropped to $299 in year 3. It is quite feasible for PS4 to drop to $299 in year 2. Even if they take a small loss per unit it would probably be worth it and Sony should be in a financial position to be ablle to take small hardware loss for a short period of time.
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endimion said:
wtf are you talking about??? Universal apps is probably one of the best thing about win8. App content and settings synchronized across all devices and when they are not free a one time fee for all platforms talk about awesome... The real issue is and has been the lack of legacy apps going universal not the other way around.... But win10 universal kernel and the way it will work for developers will cut that caveat greatly... |
So what are your favourite games in the Windows Store that are ARM (and soon XBO?) compatible you would like to play on your TV?
Modern Combat 5 could be nice (I bought it today as 99 cent RedStripe-deal for my Windows8.1-tablet) but most other games there are small touchscreen-optimized games (and overprized compared to the same games on iOS, Android and even Steam and indie bundles).
I'm so glad, my Windows tablet is compatible to x86-games, so I can use my Steam, GoG and Humble downloads instead of being dependent of the small selection of good games in the Windows Store.
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