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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates up!

kowenicki said:
Intrinsic said:
I find it strange how all the doom mongers seem to conveniently ignore certain facts. Then again its not surprising being that that's how doom mongering works.

By January 2007 the PS3 was $600, by January 2008 it was $400= yoy sales increase.
By January 2014 the XB1 was $500, by January 2015 it was $350= yoy sales increase.

But why does it surprise some, or do some expect that the PS4, still selling at the same $400 launch price, should some how sell better yoy. Does that make any sense? what kinda logic precludes that? Last year the PS4s baseline was around 160k on flat months with no major software releases. Why does anyone expect things to be different now at the same price?

Becasue its the market leader that people cant get enough of and is set to dominate?

We aren't doom mongers, we are realists who are capable of seeing the numbers for what they are.

 


No you are not...ps4 is near 20 million and is still 399, of course it was down, compared to other consoles that got privce cuts way before..YOIu dont have a clue what you are talking about. PS4 sold way faster then consoels before not named wi, of course it hoit satiuration faster.



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Intrinsic said:
I find it strange how all the doom mongers seem to conveniently ignore certain facts. Then again its not surprising being that that's how doom mongering works.

By January 2007 the PS3 was $600, by January 2008 it was $400= yoy sales increase.
By January 2014 the XB1 was $500, by January 2015 it was $350= yoy sales increase.

But why does it surprise some, or do some expect that the PS4, still selling at the same $400 launch price, should some how sell better yoy. Does that make any sense? what kinda logic precludes that? Last year the PS4s baseline was around 160k on flat months with no major software releases. Why does anyone expect things to be different now at the same price?


Exactly, and ps4 has hit near 20 million way faster without a drop, kowen and others dont have a clue. He wants to spread doome cause x1 is not doing wel.



Vita is 39% of 3DS? It seems like VGC is WAY off. 3DS probably felt a lot the impact of the upcoming New 3DS launch and had a terrible month. Anyway, it also means Vita is undertracked in the US, since 3DS wouldn't have a month THAT bad to do only 2.5X what VGC says that Vita did.



I think the PS4 is doing really well, and after decembers big numbers and a record breaking year, not surprised Jan is flat... but it will soon pick up again as the games start hitting. Certainly no need for panic or doom comments just yet because of a single month.



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Madword said:
I think the PS4 is doing really well, and after decembers big numbers and a record breaking year, not surprised Jan is flat... but it will soon pick up again as the games start hitting. Certainly no need for panic or doom comments just yet because of a single month.


Yep, you get it, ps4 had several months below 200 k last year too, people are judging based on previous gens which were way below what ps4 is at. 



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Lightbeyondnemesis said:


No you are not...ps4 is near 20 million and is still 399, of course it was down, compared to other consoles that got privce cuts way before..YOIu dont have a clue what you are talking about. PS4 sold way faster then consoels before not named wi, of course it hoit satiuration faster.


He wants to spread doom for PS4 even if it is already at 20M, which is a pretty good number. People claiming it won't get at 100M at this pace are being beyond ridiculous too. PS4 getting behind PS2 was expected too, it had to happen eventually unless PS4 would do 160M+ what isn't going to happen since it actually has competition.

His view of the NPD was way more positive in December and November, while X1 was on top.

We can't take a single month as a trend. We have the current total numbers. That's a trend, that's a result that came with more than a year of sales. Taking a single month, in a single country as a more respectable source of market health instead of 1 year of global data is simply insane.

A tiny timeframe isn't a good source of information. We could compare the MGS4 launch month on PS3 with the same month for PS4 (supposing we had a month with no big game) and PS4 would look bad. The aligned month to month comparison still suffers with the fact that PS3 and 360 had price cuts while PS4 hadn't. More than that, X1 got a 150 bucks price cut and stole market share from PS4 in the US.



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Ehhh where are the 3DS and PS Vita sales?



Dr.Vita said:
Ehhh where are the 3DS and PS Vita sales?

Remains a mystery, but good news. VGC might have undertracked the Vita again ;)



Aura7541 said:
Dr.Vita said:
Ehhh where are the 3DS and PS Vita sales?

Remains a mystery, but good news. VGC might have undertracked the Vita again ;)


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