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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates up!

Euphoria14 said:
true_fan said:

You mean the same fanbase that rioted about online only and drm, highly unlikely. 

Digital downloads being tied to a console =/= 24 hour check ins or total console lock down and all games, including retail being tied to one console, thus killing 2nd hand market.

Everyone knows full well a digital download itself contains DRM. That wasn't even close to the issue people had with the XBox One when it was revealed, although i'm sure you know this.

What you said.

Though I seriously doubt the suggestion that lead to T_f's comment. I don't see digital sales being so different as to cause that big of an effect on physical sales. Would be interesting to get a break down from a few 3rd parties regarding digital market share between PS4 and Xb one. I doub't we'll ever get it. I doubt we'll ever get overall console digital sales, as all the info I've seen so far incorporates PC, and doesn't give a game by game split. And often times the "digital" sales data includes subscriptions and DLC so you can;t even get an accurate physical/digital spilt at a macro level.



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BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? less HW sold and total HW is less than PS4


Isn't necessarily selling more, just has a higher attach rate



true_fan said:
Burek said:


That is most likely an indicator that PS4 owners buy more games digitally than XOne owners.

You mean the same fanbase that rioted about online only and drm, highly unlikely. 

You seem to forget that DRM you mention was MS trying to impose it on physical discs as well, making them an unusable coaster after you install it. Along with them acting as your parole officer requiring you to contact them every 24 hours, treating their customers like common criminals.

So it is not highly unlikely at all.



benji232 said:
Kerotan said:
Vgchartz has the Wii U at 70k for just 3 of these weeks. Heavily overtracked per week in the usa by this site. That's bad news but at least it's up yoy

I wouldn't call 15-20k overtracked "Heavily" overtracked. But yea, I'd say that this is a disapointing performance from the U.


It's on track to be overtracked by about 30k. That's 50% off. Big big overtracking. 



true_fan said:
Burek said:


That is most likely an indicator that PS4 owners buy more games digitally than XOne owners.

You mean the same fanbase that rioted about online only and drm, highly unlikely. 


Isn't half of the PS4 userbase also Vita owners who are able to buy nothing but DRM riddled digital software though? :P



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BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? less HW sold and total HW is less than PS4

congrats on ps4 win MS needs to be 100 dollars less to sell on par or more than even though both consoles share the same mulitplats and imo both dont really have many exclusives on them yet so whats the deciding factor? online aint free on PSN, wonder how much ps4 will be outselling in once exclusive SW starts rolling in


My guess all the people that bought new X1s sold over the holiday are now building up their game collection. GTA and Destiny are the obvious first games to get.



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He seems hurt.



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200 000 in Jen??
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SWORDF1SH said:
BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? less HW sold and total HW is less than PS4

congrats on ps4 win MS needs to be 100 dollars less to sell on par or more than even though both consoles share the same mulitplats and imo both dont really have many exclusives on them yet so whats the deciding factor? online aint free on PSN, wonder how much ps4 will be outselling in once exclusive SW starts rolling in


My guess all the people that bought new X1s sold over the holiday are now building up their game collection. GTA and Destiny are the obvious first games to get.

This. 



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