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t3mporary_126 on 04 February 2015
padib said:
t3mporary_126 said:

@Bold: That would mean this game lacks ambition to resort into that test model.

@Underline: That means this game is actuallly being rushed because they don't have time to add and polish more modes they think people will enjoy.

It's not a question of time or ambition, it's a question of real, tangible business constaints.

This is a new IP, they are uncertain of its success and thus will maximize their success for this new game. if it goes well, then they will add modes given a larger player base.

ToxicJosh is right on the money.


So what, is this Nintendo's Destiny? A new IP that Activision marketed extensively, only to have features players want locked away in the form of DLC?



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KingdomHeartsFan on 04 February 2015
Paatar said:

I'm sorry but CoD is not worth $60 + the extra $40 that is optional, but most idiots pay for it anyway.

Destiny is not worth it. There isn't even a story for that godforsaken game.

Don't even get me started on games like FIFA. Same game, play soccer, woohoo. Practically nothing new in those games and those are definitely not worth the $60. If the statement of "games Nintendo makes aren't worth the $60" then it has to be applied to all others, not just Nintendo. They are the least lazy ones.

None of the shooters out there are good. I'm sorry. Online mode, Campaign mode and Local mode along with customization and etc is definitely worth the $60.

But all that is in cod plus cod has a seperate co-op mode and yet you said that's not worth $60.



Paatar on 04 February 2015
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Paatar said:

I'm sorry but CoD is not worth $60 + the extra $40 that is optional, but most idiots pay for it anyway.

Destiny is not worth it. There isn't even a story for that godforsaken game.

Don't even get me started on games like FIFA. Same game, play soccer, woohoo. Practically nothing new in those games and those are definitely not worth the $60. If the statement of "games Nintendo makes aren't worth the $60" then it has to be applied to all others, not just Nintendo. They are the least lazy ones.

None of the shooters out there are good. I'm sorry. Online mode, Campaign mode and Local mode along with customization and etc is definitely worth the $60.

But all that is in cod plus cod has a seperate co-op mode and yet you said that's not worth $60.


CoD is the same game over and over again. Splatoon is actually new and innovative. So yes, it isn't worth the $60.



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KingdomHeartsFan on 04 February 2015
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KingdomHeartsFan said:

But all that is in cod plus cod has a seperate co-op mode and yet you said that's not worth $60.


CoD is the same game over and over again. Splatoon is actually new and innovative. So yes, it isn't worth the $60.

No it isn't, there's new story mode and new maps, new guns, everything is new.  The only thing that remains the same is the core gameplay, which is the same in almost every sequel so by that logic no sequel is worth $60.



Frogger on 04 February 2015
Paatar said:

I'm sorry but CoD is not worth $60 + the extra $40 that is optional, but most idiots pay for it anyway.

Destiny is not worth it. There isn't even a story for that godforsaken game.

Don't even get me started on games like FIFA. Same game, play soccer, woohoo. Practically nothing new in those games and those are definitely not worth the $60. If the statement of "games Nintendo makes aren't worth the $60" then it has to be applied to all others, not just Nintendo. They are the least lazy ones.

None of the shooters out there are good. I'm sorry. Online mode, Campaign mode and Local mode along with customization and etc is definitely worth the $60.


Every single game you mention offers exponencially more content than Splatoon does. COD offers more in its "optional $40 content" than Splatoon is offering as a complete $60 product. It's frankly hypocritical of you to say that what they offer isn't worth $60, but Splatoon offering a tiny fraction of that somehow is. Splatoon doesn't exist in a vaccume. There are other games offering much more of the same content for just as much money. 



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Paatar on 04 February 2015
KingdomHeartsFan said:
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CoD is the same game over and over again. Splatoon is actually new and innovative. So yes, it isn't worth the $60.

No it isn't, there's new story mode and new maps, new guns, everything is new.  The only thing that remains the same is the core gameplay, which is the same in almost every sequel so by that logic no sequel is worth $60.


Then I don't want to hear CoD fanboys say games like Pokemon are the same game.

New maps? That doesn't count. New guns? Yeah, there are some, but they do pretty much the same thing. Still not worth it IMO.



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KingdomHeartsFan on 04 February 2015
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KingdomHeartsFan said:

No it isn't, there's new story mode and new maps, new guns, everything is new.  The only thing that remains the same is the core gameplay, which is the same in almost every sequel so by that logic no sequel is worth $60.


Then I don't want to hear CoD fanboys say games like Pokemon are the same game.

New maps? That doesn't count. New guns? Yeah, there are some, but they do pretty much the same thing. Still not worth it IMO.

How do you want the guns to change?  Shoot flowers instead of bullets?



chapset on 04 February 2015

1 mode? 4v4? no team speak? and I'm willing to bet you can't even drop in, in a game already in progress. R.I.P



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cutzman25 on 04 February 2015

its just Nintendo being Nintendo believing that online gaming is something that will never catch on and they everyone would much rather play with one another on the same couch



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ToxicJosh on 04 February 2015
t3mporary_126 said:
ToxicJosh said:
Wow, so much butthurt in this thread.

Splatoon was playable at E3 last year, and likely won't release until late May (MK8 slot), so is in no way being rushed. The one gamemode (in online 4v4) is probably to make sure that people don't struggle to find a match. Remember this is a brand new IP. At this point in time it could be a MK8/Smash scale hit or a W101 flop, or probably somewhere in between.

If its popular enough then Nintendo will probably do a DLC map pack, and an update to add game modes. But at this point in time they want the game to be as good as possible, and if it's impossible to get into a game of your chosen mode then your enjoyment of the game overall is going to suffer.


@Bold: That would mean this game lacks ambition to resort into that test model.

@Underline: That means this game is actuallly being rushed because they don't have time to add and polish more modes they think people will enjoy.

I disagree. I think their train of thought is broadly as follows (numbers strictly illustrative):

Each extra game mode splits the playing population. So if 1,000 active players with one game mode means that it's 30 seconds to get into a game, then 2 game modes might mean 500 players per mode, and therefore a longer wait to play.

In popular games, this risk is mitigated by the sheer number of people playing at once. However, currently the success/popularity of the game is an unknown quantity, and planning on have 3 or 4 online modes may well be planning for the game to fail. Therefore, until it is known whether the game is popular or now, it is better that there is no chance of struggling to find online games.

If it does turn out to be popular then I confident that new modes will be added, probably as a free update alongside a mappack DLC (so as not to split the userbase).

We also don't know how the 4v4 works, how many maps there are, how big the single player mode is, or what the local MP consists of. To dismiss the game because it doesn't have a capture the flag is ridiculous.