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t3mporary_126 said:

Due to recent news it may seem so. So far Splatoon lacks features that are common for online shooter at this point of the gaming world. 

These include:

1. No voice chat in random online matches

2. No bots available in 4 vs 4 matches

3. No online modes other than the one 4 vs 4 match in random online matches*

*We have no info about online matches with friends yet

Compared to other FPS and TPS with online modes made by well known developers, this is pretty barebone. Or are we asking too much from Nintendo? Have we taken for granted that other FPS and TPS offer much more options? 

 

I'd like to take a minute to bring up the WiiU's other upcoming shooter: Devils Third -- which happens to already have all the above features pretty much confirmed. And that's with only the E3 2014 info and some interviews/teases of the game.

Maybe Splatoon is rushed, but Devil's Third isn't. 

Maybe we're hyping up the wrong shooter for WiiU.

So to answer your questions

... are we asking too much from Nintendo? No. They're able to develop titles with these kind of features.

Have we taken for granted that other FPS and TPS offer much more options?  Yes. Clearly there's another upcoming shooter on WiiU with more robust features -- but many WiiU gamers treat it like garbage.  NIntendo gamers do tend to like to white-knight the cause of "gameplay matters more than graphics" - but not in the case of DT (which probably really has more intricate graphical detail than Splatoon does)

I think we'll get more than a few good surprises in a Splatoon direct and it'll be a great game. But honestly, I don't think these features really matter to a lot of Nintendo fans -- but they may prevent Splatoon from really reaching a mass audience.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

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fleischr said:
t3mporary_126 said:

Due to recent news it may seem so. So far Splatoon lacks features that are common for online shooter at this point of the gaming world. 

These include:

1. No voice chat in random online matches

2. No bots available in 4 vs 4 matches

3. No online modes other than the one 4 vs 4 match in random online matches*

*We have no info about online matches with friends yet

Compared to other FPS and TPS with online modes made by well known developers, this is pretty barebone. Or are we asking too much from Nintendo? Have we taken for granted that other FPS and TPS offer much more options? 

 

I'd like to take a minute to bring up the WiiU's other upcoming shooter: Devils Third -- which happens to already have all the above features pretty much confirmed. And that's with only the E3 2014 info and some interviews/teases of the game.

Maybe Splatoon is rushed, but Devil's Third isn't. 

Maybe we're hyping up the wrong shooter for WiiU.

So to answer your questions

... are we asking too much from Nintendo? No. They're able to develop titles with these kind of features.

Have we taken for granted that other FPS and TPS offer much more options?  Yes. Clearly there's another upcoming shooter on WiiU with more robust features -- but many WiiU gamers treat it like garbage.  NIntendo gamers do tend to like to white-knight the cause of "gameplay matters more than graphics" - but not in the case of DT (which probably really has more intricate graphical detail than Splatoon does)

I think we'll get more than a few good surprises in a Splatoon direct and it'll be a great game. But honestly, I don't think these features really matter to a lot of Nintendo fans -- but they may prevent Splatoon from really reaching a mass audience.

Splatoon looks a lot more fun than DT, that's all there's to it.



I dunno. I don't think "every other game is doing it so this one has to do it too" is a valid argument in any case. If Splatoon has less content than expected of a full-price game then it should be cheaper than the average $60, sure. But having different content is a good thing. And we don't know all of Splatoon's content, we don't know how many maps it has, how many different kinds of weapons it has, what kind of local multiplayer it has, how long its single-player is.

The devs flat-out describe Hero Mode as a 3D platformer, so if you insist on demanding that Splatoon follow the same standard practices as other games in its genre, let's compare its online multiplayer to that of other 3D platform games. Such as......... such as........... y'know.... all those online multiplayer 3D platform games...... whose names escape me right now.

It just doesn't make any sense to me to say, "This title has similar gameplay to those other titles, therefore it has to have the same kind of content." That is the path that leads to stagnation. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE PATHETIC LIMITATION OF THE SPIRAL RACE



Samus Aran said:

Splatoon looks a lot more fun than DT, that's all there's to it.


To be fair, that's a subjective matter, but I get it. The games do appeal to clearly different tastes that may not overlap.

The way I see it, DT looks fun for some of the same reasons as Splatoon. To me, the mechanics of slash-and-dash with shooting in DT isn't all that different from the paint mechanic used to empower movement in Splatoon. The both mechanics offer a unique variant on territory control that hasn't been explored much in shooters up to this point imo.

The features missing from Splatoon make it admittedly seem less fun though.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

I don't care about this "lack of content", but obviously Nintendo is going to regret the voice chat decision.



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I`d agree with some of the others, in that these design choices were likely made by the developers, and not due to time constraints,which is pretty dumb... T.T At least communication is quite important for these kinds of games...



 

              

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No voice chat in random matches? Boo!!



Gammalad said:
Odds are there will probably be game mode expansions over the years instead of getting a yearly Splatoon release there will probably be free add on DLC

I love this idea..



Consoles owned: Wii U wii gamecube DS DS lite DSi 3DS Xbox 360 Gameboy Gameboy color Gameboy advance Gameboy Advance sp Gameboy micro and PC. 

If what you said if true, then it will end up being a decent multiplayer game at best. This game reminds me PVZ GW and that game support 16 vs 16 and it was a lot of fun.



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And no, I am not sarcastic.