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I think people just give too much meaning for things Phil spencer says,even when he just give simple,afirmative answers.

For example:(exagerated one)

"Will jRPGs come to xbox?"
Phil: "Yes there will be jRPGs on xone!"

People:"YAY! Blue dragon 2 confirmed! lost odyssey 2 confirmed! Phil is our god! phil is changing Xone!"



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cutzman25 said:

I remember a few months back that Phil Spencer stating that there were so many games goming out in 2015 that he didnt know if he could squeeze them all in the schedule.   

Well I been looking at the lists and videos of 2015 releases and they are mostly 3rd party games that i can play elsewhere.  I felt as though they made it seem like they were coming strong, but screamride(looks terrible), Ori (looks cool), Quantum Break (could go either way), Halo 5( not a halo fan).  Is there any other game I am missing here.  I sure hope so cuz if not Im gonna be let down with the X1 this year.  Terrible.  OK RANT OVER.

Oh and FYI I have all consoles so 90% of the time I am buying 3rd party games for my PS4 because they usually look better. 


So... you forgot quite a few games here.

- Halo 5
- Quantum Break
- Screamride
- Ori

(u mentioned those)

add

- Tomb Raider
- Fable Legends
- State of Decay
- Forza 6

All of them are confirmed 2015 games.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Gamepur.com said:

"Microsoft Xbox Division Boss in a recent Major Nelson Hryb's Podcast talked on lot of interesting things about Xbox One: "Fall 2014 line [sic], what's coming in Holiday Season 2015 and the recent price cut of Xbox One for a limited time period". (1)

Phil Spencer stated that the line-up for Xbox One for Fall 2015 looks "Crazy" and this the upcoming which is just few days away is pretty good time for Xbox One to compete against Sony's PlayStation 4.

"Looking at production schedules and how things are lining up next fall is just crazy. I mean, this fall from first party and third party standpoint is great.  Next fall, I honestly… It's not hype at all… I Honestly don't know that we can ship all the stuff that we're trying to ship next fall. It just might be too crowded and we might purposely try to move something out to spread it." (2)

Coming to the Xbox One price cut which will be available for limited time (till Holiday Season 2014), Spencer stated that it's a Big Move from Microsoft and its pretty good time for them to go out and compete.

"I think the pricing that's going to run through the holidays is a big move from us. I think it's a good time for us to go in and compete. One thing I'm learning in the job is you plan this stuff months in advance. You gotta make sure you have the units there so people go into the store and actually can find the consoles at the right prices. Do all the inventory planning, do all the pricing, but I feel good about the bundles. (3)

You've got Assassin's Creed Unity, you've got the Sunset Overdrive bundle, you've got the great Call of Duty with one terabyte hard drive… I think the diversity of what we're bundling and the different consoles that are there… Getting to reduce the price by fifty dollars across all the different consoles, I think it's a great opportunity, and it's a good time. It's a good time to be a gamer. I think the opportunity there to get something of value for you is gonna be all over the place. This holidays' black Friday will be crazy. People run their own deal on top of that, and we want to support that."

Microsoft surely had a pretty great start for Holiday Season 2014, Insomniac's Sunset Overdrive was very well received by critics and fans, and the upcoming line-up is also pretty interesting (especially Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Halo 5: Multiplayer beta and other third party titles)."

Source

 

 

 

Here's an article with the quotes, since nobody else was providing a source.  So the bolded are comments I'd like to go over, but he did in fact state that they had too many games releasing for fall of 2015, not necessarily the rest of the year. However, there's some massive spinning in my opinion going on.  Corellating this to my earlier post about him being a salesman and being good at decieving the average consumer such as yourself.

(1) 'Recent price cut for a limited period of time.'  So... the first thing that shows good ol Spence is still up to shady MS tactics - Let the customer percieve what others would call a price cut as a Limited Offer.  Doesn't that phrasing sound kind of familiar...? Similar to what they're doing right now which is a 'limited offer'? IE The Vanilla SKU discounted $50. But it's not a price cut guys, we're doing this as a one time special offer for the gamers, by the gamers.

(2) This parts interesting. He makes it appear as if the software lineup for 2015s holiday season is so jampacked that they'll be forced to delay some first party titles in favor of flooding the market... But uhm, wait Microsoft.  What about the other 3/4ths of the year? You could always move some of those extra games that way right? Ordinarily that would make sense.  Keep sales steadily flowing, maintain consumer satisfaction, maybe even spawn some killer new IPs along the way.  But that can't happen if none of these exclusives weren't completley developed before the year ends anyway.  I think that this is just his way of spinning 'Our software lineupe is relatively weak this year and we don't have many exclusives available' >>>into>>> 'We have TOO many exclusives available so we'll just delay half them to next year to make us look better'.

(3) My only comment on this is that he specifically points to flooding the retail channels before it actually happens.  Anyone remember the recent Microsoft financial reports? Either the tracking here at VGChartz was way off or MS literally STUFFED the channels with overstocked inventory.  Now, how many of you have seen anecdotal evidence of pallet loads of X1s at your local WalMart, Target, Best Buy, etc? Again, go back and read that third bolded comment that Spencer made before the holiday season was in full gear.  



I would list the lies that all the Sony people have told, but it would be too many to list.



That amount if unannounced games is more than 2 according to rumours. He said Holiday. Just stop



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

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cutzman25 said:

I remember a few months back that Phil Spencer stating that there were so many games goming out in 2015 that he didnt know if he could squeeze them all in the schedule.   

Well I been looking at the lists and videos of 2015 releases and they are mostly 3rd party games that i can play elsewhere.  I felt as though they made it seem like they were coming strong, but screamride(looks terrible), Ori (looks cool), Quantum Break (could go either way), Halo 5( not a halo fan).  Is there any other game I am missing here.  I sure hope so cuz if not Im gonna be let down with the X1 this year.  Terrible.  OK RANT OVER.

Oh and FYI I have all consoles so 90% of the time I am buying 3rd party games for my PS4 because they usually look better. 


You should be buying 3rd party games on PC.



Last year was about as good as MS ever got on any xbox system ever as far as exclusive or half exclusive titles are concerned... Compared to what's coming on the ps4 in 2015 it's sad ... And Nintendo may introduce their next console at e3! 

 

At least there are good chances that you had the xb1 on the cheap! ... Now enjoy your 6 month near drought :-/



MS lying? You don't say.Of course he spewed more PR BS,which is his job.People should know by now what to expect from MS.They will only have the same games and third party games.

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They should show more of this scalebound



Ka-pi96 said:
alabtrosMyster said:

Last year was about as good as MS ever got on any xbox system ever as far as exclusive or half exclusive titles are concerned... Compared to what's coming on the ps4 in 2015 it's sad ... And Nintendo may introduce their next console at e3! 

 

At least there are good chances that you had the xb1 on the cheap! ... Now enjoy your 6 month near drought :-/

Why don't multiplat games count? They are still games aren't they?


Only exclusives. No one plays multi games to fill any gaps. No One! Forgot which rule it actually is tho