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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS3 shipped 1.1m units over the holiday, 360 2.1m~ 360 LTD ahead of PS3, still in 2nd Place

DonFerrari on 06 February 2015
darkenergy said:
DonFerrari said:


No, no one can. Duplicate threads and spamming are against the forum rules.

 

Have I said there are TF bundles in shelves (even if there may be)? Nope, I said that when TF bundle released there were stores that ordered them even though they still had the day one edition bundle. Mr. Manager Ludicrouspeed knows that stores will order new bundle even if they have older stock picking dust so they don't miss newer promos and desired itens. And I agree with him on ms not accepting returns (which would probably appear in some way on the books if they did, and we never saw it as far as I'm aware).

Umm... I don't think making a thread like this every 3 or 4 months is considered spamming.


Making 2 with a difference of one day could be.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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mymuro on 06 February 2015
Justagamer said:
I've said it many times.... xbox 360 was #2, and the ps3 was last. People couldn't handle that truth then, and they still cant.

Pretty much this. Someone just cant accept the brutal truth. PS3 was and will still be #3 in 7th gen.



Samus Aran on 07 February 2015
mymuro said:
Justagamer said:
I've said it many times.... xbox 360 was #2, and the ps3 was last. People couldn't handle that truth then, and they still cant.

Pretty much this. Someone just cant accept the brutal truth. PS3 was and will still be #3 in 7th gen.

It always was profit wise (or lack there of). PS3 is a very big failure.



Madword on 07 February 2015
RolStoppable said:
kowenicki said:

Yes it is unreasonable.

How many on shelves in Japan and other European markets for insatnce where demand is minimal.

Stores ORDER stock, it isnt forced onto them.

Are you suggesting stores in Japan and Europe WANT to carry similar stock as the PS4 even though the demand is siginificantly less?

I am suggesting that stores overestimated what they can sell during the holidays. It's not unreasonable when we already know that one of the big store chains in Germany offered a big deal, and much more importantly, the temporary price cut in the USA (where Xbox One sells the most) had to be reinstated quickly.

Exactly, if MS comes to a retailer and says, we're going to knock $50-100 off the price and offer two/three games...and for target .. you are going to think they are going to sell alot and so you order more. Seems like a simple explanation.

And we have heard stories of mass numbers of XBO in stock/warehouses, and as you say, the price cut which ended was added back again.. this wasnt because the product was shifting consoles it was because they were having problems shifting them.



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DonFerrari on 07 February 2015

And I still think Sony lower shipments for this year and some reports of lack of PS3 in stock, plus the financial results showing small margin is reflect of Sony preparing to launch PS3 real slim and tackle the price down and give it a final sprint.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Madword on 08 February 2015
DonFerrari said:
And I still think Sony lower shipments for this year and some reports of lack of PS3 in stock, plus the financial results showing small margin is reflect of Sony preparing to launch PS3 real slim and tackle the price down and give it a final sprint.

I had exactly the same thought that they might be doing a PS3 slim... it does make sense.



Making an indie game : Dead of Day!

TaMpAbLaCk on 08 February 2015

The PS3 not only caught, but passed the 360. It's hard to believe when the 360 had a year head start and the PS3 was twice the price in the early cycle. The PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide by around 30k units take or give on a weekly basis. The ship has sailed as far as the 360 winning last generation. It is impossible for it to ever catch PS3.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAobb8_SzHY

PSN: TaMpA_bLaCk

TaMpAbLaCk on 08 February 2015
mymuro said:
Justagamer said:
I've said it many times.... xbox 360 was #2, and the ps3 was last. People couldn't handle that truth then, and they still cant.

Pretty much this. Someone just cant accept the brutal truth. PS3 was and will still be #3 in 7th gen.


?!?! Xbox is clearly in 3rd and has been for years. (click on the last generation console sales on this home page for proof) PS3 outsold it which was amazing considering the 360 had a year head start and the PS3 cost twice the price for a while.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAobb8_SzHY

PSN: TaMpA_bLaCk

DanRybacki on 08 February 2015
TaMpAbLaCk said:
mymuro said:

Pretty much this. Someone just cant accept the brutal truth. PS3 was and will still be #3 in 7th gen.


?!?! Xbox is clearly in 3rd and has been for years. (click on the last generation console sales on this home page for proof) PS3 outsold it which was amazing considering the 360 had a year head start and the PS3 cost twice the price for a while.

It isn't proof, that's why this thread exists.



Jabbamk1 on 08 February 2015
kowenicki said:
walsufnir said:


If numbers are true it is only another hint that numbers are still wrong for last gen and that PS3 perhaps has never overtaken 360. Which wouldn't be much surprising to me.

Yep.

360 is still ahead.

Been saying it for ages but people dont like it and now we have the facts to substantiate it.  Unless people want to say the ONE is at 13m or more shipped?

 


Please explain to me the dictionary definition of facts. 

And then please show how many PS3's have shipped using factual information and how many Xbox 360's have shipped using factual information. 

We cannot prove at any cost that Microsoft have sold in more 360's than PS3's, nor can we prove that Sony have sold in more PS3's than Xbox 360's. 

We can make an intelligent guess that perhaps the 360 outsold the PS3 this year which would make sense based on the numbers we have. But we can't say it's a fact and nor can we say that 360 has sold in more LTD. 

(This is why, and no offence, but I've called you out plenty of times in the past for your very bias posts)